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        <docTitle>PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES</docTitle>
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        <docProponent>DÁIL ÉIREANN</docProponent>
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        <docDate date="2026-11-10">Dé Máirt, 10 Samhain 2026</docDate>
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        <docDate date="2026-11-10">Tuesday, 10 November 2026</docDate>
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        <summary class="Center" eId="sum_1">Chuaigh an Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mark Wall) i gceannas ar 1 p.m.</summary>
        <summary class="Center" eId="sum_2">Paidir agus Machnamh.</summary>
        <summary class="Center" eId="sum_3">Prayer and Reflection.</summary>
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      <debateSection name="topical" eId="dbsect_2">
        <heading>Ábhair Shaincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Matters<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:00:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <speech by="#MarkWall" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_1">
          <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mark Wall)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_1">I wish to advise the House of the following matters in respect of which notice has been given under Standing Order 39 and the name of the Member in each case:</p>
          <p eId="para_2"> Deputies Michael Murphy and Mattie McGrath - To discuss the need to strengthen Uisce Éireann's accountability to Dáil Éireann.</p>
          <p eId="para_3"> Deputy Michael Cahill - To urgently intervene and treat the Ballyheigue water contamination issue as a state of emergency. </p>
          <p eId="para_4"> Deputy Cathy Bennett - To discuss efforts to secure a public sector pay deal.</p>
          <p eId="para_5"> Deputy Malcolm Byrne - To discuss measures to tackle the rate of youth unemployment.</p>
          <p eId="para_6"> Deputy Aidan Farrelly - To discuss the sports capital grant programme in respect of soccer clubs in County Kildare.</p>
          <p eId="para_7"> Deputy Louise O'Reilly - To discuss gaps in support for widows and bereaved partners.</p>
          <p eId="para_8"> Deputy Shane Moynihan - To discuss the need to ensure full provision of NEPS in schools across Lucan, Clondalkin, Palmerstown, Rathcoole, Newcastle and Saggart.</p>
          <p eId="para_9"> Deputy Ruairí Ó Murchú - To discuss the way in which local specialist music retailers can become approved suppliers to schools.</p>
          <p eId="para_10"> Deputies Mark Wall and Brian Stanley - To discuss the ongoing overcrowding on train lines serving Kildare South and the mid-west.</p>
          <p eId="para_11"> Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh - To discuss the loss of essential clerical support staff from Belmullet Community Hospital and Swinford District Hospital.</p>
          <p eId="para_12"> Deputy William Aird - To discuss staffing matters within the HSE, particularly the issue of graduate nurses' contracts. </p>
          <p eId="para_13"> Deputy Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire - To discuss the need for footpaths from Waterfall village to Bishopstown.</p>
          <p eId="para_14"> The matters raised by Deputies Michael Murphy and Mattie McGrath, Rose Conway-Walsh, William Aird, Malcolm Byrne, Mark Wall and Brian Stanley have been selected for discussion.</p>
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      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="topical" eId="dbsect_3">
        <heading>Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:00:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_4">
          <heading>Water Services<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:00:00+00:00"/></heading>
          <speech by="#MichaelMurphy" eId="spk_2">
            <from>Deputy Michael Murphy<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:00:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_15">I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Cummins, for taking this Topical Issue matter. On Tuesday last myself and my Oireachtas colleagues from south Tipperary met with the CEO of Irish Water and his leadership team such is the crisis in the water supply across the constituency of Tipperary south. The CEO described Tipperary as its most challenged area. That in itself tells a story. We have tens of thousands on a boil water notice. Some of those are on a do not consume notice for a period of time. There are multiple outages and very poor communication. Cordangan, which supplies Tipperary town's population of 5,000, has been on a boil water notice since February of this year. The Ardfinnan supply, which supplies the bulk of Cahir and surrounding areas and comes into the west of Clonmel, is on a boil water notice since June this year. For a period of time those 11,000 customers are on a do not consume notice. There are multiple outages across Clonmel and huge changes across Clonmel, with large parts of Carrick-on-Suir without water as well.</p>
            <p eId="para_16"> This is a significant public company in receipt of significant funding from taxpayers and offering an essential service. Yet, it remains unaccountable to Dáil Éireann. It is extraordinary to think that I, as a Member of Parliament, cannot table a parliamentary question. This needs to change. Everyone in this House of democracy agrees with that. My question to the Minister of State is: how can we make this happen?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" eId="spk_3" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mattie McGrath<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:00:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_17">I thank the Ceann Comhairle for accepting this Topical Issue matter today. South Tipperary's water crisis has exposed a serious failure of accountability at the heart of our water governance system. Families and businesses were left in the dark while agencies passed the responsibility from one to another. I am speaking about the Ardfinnan scheme. We know that the HSE was informed about aluminium exceedance on 9 September this year but a do not consume order was not issued until 9 October, which was a month later. During that period, more than 60 of the 72 samples exceeded guideline levels with some exceedance up to 12 times EU limits. It is shocking. It was two and a half times the WHO limits. The public deserves answers as to why it was more than a month before the do not consume notice was issued. Who knew? When did they know? Why was action not taken sooner? Who made the decision to wait for a month before issuing a warning? The HSE said it is a matter for the Environmental Protection Agency, EPA. The EPA says it does not provide public health advice and directs questions back to the HSE. The Minister for Health says it is an operational matter for Uisce Éireann. The role of the Commission for Regulation of Utilities, CRU, has been virtually invisible throughout the crisis. The obvious questions are: who is accountable, who is going to be accountable and who is going to take charge of this?</p>
            <p eId="para_18">From the public's perspective, that was shocking. We had a meeting in Clonmel last night covering the whole of south Tipperary. I salute the committee there, which is working very hard under Richie Gleeson and Joe Hawkins. Indeed, we all attended to listen to people. In Cordangan in Tipperary, the well went down in February. If my well or anyone else's went down, it would be fixed by now. Uisce Éireann has not fixed it and we will not have water for Christmas. It is like waiting for Santy Claus. We met the CEO. He left after 50 minutes. We want another meeting with him. There is no responsibility or accountability; the Minister of State's former colleague, Phil Hogan, set this up in such a way. Please, we must make somebody accountable. We must have answers for the public, county councils, including local councillors, and Oireachtas Members. It is not happening at the moment. That is not right.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JohnCummins" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Housing,_Local_Government_and_Heritage" eId="spk_4">
            <from>Minister of State at the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Deputy John Cummins)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:05:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_19">I thank the Deputies for raising these important matters. The Minister, Deputy James Browne, sends his apologies for not being in a position to answer this Topical Issue in person.</p>
            <p eId="para_20"> Uisce Éireann is the national authority for water services and a statutorily independent body with responsibility for all aspects of water services, as prescribed by the Water Services Acts. It was formed and registered under the Companies Acts and is a commercial State company. Neither the Minister, Deputy Browne, nor I have any operational role. That is a matter for Uisce Éireann. These arrangements are not particular to Uisce Éireann. They apply to the generality of State bodies that have statutorily assigned functions that are not, as a result, functions of a Minister of the Government.</p>
            <p eId="para_21"> However, given the level of Exchequer funding provided to Uisce Éireann, it is subject to additional layers of governance and accountability by the Oireachtas, including audit by the Comptroller and Auditor General and accountability to the Committee of Public Accounts. There are also requirements for bodies funded by the State to have appropriate systems in place for the provision of information regarding their operations to Oireachtas Members, as detailed in Circular 25/2016, the protocol for the provision of information to Members of the Oireachtas by State bodies under the aegis of a Department. Uisce Éireann has a dedicated team to deal with representations and queries from public representatives. However, it is true that this engagement needs to improve significantly. It is something that I have addressed in my meetings with it over the last number of months. While progress is being made, significantly more work remains to be achieved. Uisce Éireann has also acknowledged that its engagement with public representative needs to improve and has informed me that it is in the process of taking additional steps to improve both the timing and quality of responses to inquiries made by elected representatives.</p>
            <p eId="para_22"> Turning to south Tipperary in particular, Deputy Michael Murphy has raised the ongoing issues with me in person over the last number of weeks. I have made inquiries on behalf of him and Deputy Mattie McGrath and have been informed that Uisce Éireann issued seven press releases since 9 October and communicated extensively and urgently with elected representatives on the matters that are affecting their communities.</p>
            <p eId="para_23"> The "do not consume" notice for customers on the Ardfinnan regional water supply scheme was recently lifted following consultation with HSE and the completion of critical works at Goatenbridge water treatment plant. However, the boil water notice remains in place and the public in south Tipperary should adhere to the guidance until a further update is provided by Uisce Éireann. Uisce Éireann has said that its focus now is on lifting the boil water notice as quickly and safely as possible. The completion of the works at the water treatment plant is an important step. Further testing and monitoring is necessary to provide the evidence required, in consultation with the HSE, to determine when the boil water notice can be lifted safely.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" eId="spk_5" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mattie McGrath<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:05:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_24">I could not make it up. I thank the Minister of State for being here but the Minister, Deputy Browne, should be here. I have not seen the like of it. How many press releases did the Minister of State say that Uisce Éireann had issued? Press releases will not give us clean water, lift a boil water notice or fix the burst pipes. I could not make this up. I have met the Pope. I have met the President of America. That was much easier than meeting the invisible CEO of Uisce Éireann. Uisce Éireann is not accountable to anyone. It is like Comical Ali during the Iraq War. When the bombs were falling down on him, he was issuing press releases. This is total baloney.</p>
            <p eId="para_25">There is a democratic deficit and it must be addressed. I have drafted a water services Bill, called the accountability Bill 2026, to establish clear accountability for Uisce Éireann to the Minister - that will be the Minister of State if the Minister is not available - and the principle is simple: no public body should be beyond democratic scrutiny. That goes without saying. No public body should avoid accountability by using operational measures. We have to have clear measures like this. No public utility should be able to preside over a fiasco like Uisce Éireann is in south Tipperary.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MarkWall" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_6">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mark Wall)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_26">I thank the Deputy.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" eId="spk_7" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mattie McGrath<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_27">The old adage was, "Where Tipperary leads, Ireland follows". If Ireland follows what we are doing with our water, it will be a complete and utter catastrophe.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MarkWall" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_8">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mark Wall)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_28">I call Deputy Murphy.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" eId="spk_9" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mattie McGrath<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_29">We need Uisce Éireann to be reined in and be accountable to this House and, ultimately, the Minister.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MichaelMurphy" eId="spk_10">
            <from>Deputy Michael Murphy<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_30">I, too, attended that public meeting. It was attended by hundreds in the Talbot Hotel last night. Constituents of mine are angry and frustrated. There is huge anxiety within the community, particularly among vulnerable users, many of whom my office engages with on a weekly basis. I am reminded of the Tánaiste's contribution on 2 July last when he said:</p>
            <p class="indent_1" eId="para_31">... it is my very clear view that Uisce Éireann should be [more] accountable to Dáil Éireann through parliamentary questions [and select committee]. I do not understand why it is not.</p>
            <p eId="para_32"> Does the Minister of State agree with what the Tánaiste said in this Chamber on 2 July? It is extraordinary to think that I am a policymaker and a legislator, and we have a public utility in receipt of billions of euro that is not accountable to this house of democracy.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JohnCummins" eId="spk_11" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Housing,_Local_Government_and_Heritage">
            <from>Deputy John Cummins<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_33">I understand the Deputies' frustration on behalf of their communities, which are being impacted as a result of the ongoing issues. There is no question that there is an information deficit and the response from Uisce Éireann is not where it needs to be in terms of the information that is provided to all Members of this Chamber. I agree with the Tánaiste in that regard. As I said in my opening contribution, though, I have raised this and there is an acknowledgement within Uisce Éireann that it is not where it needs to be.</p>
            <p eId="para_34"> We want to get to a situation where the information that is relayed to Members of the Oireachtas is accurate and done in a timely fashion and that Uisce Éireann is responsive to the needs and requests of Members of this House and the Seanad. When there is an issue, there is a call centre within Uisce Éireann that the public can reach out to-----</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" eId="spk_12" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mattie McGrath<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_35">It is a waste of time.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JohnCummins" eId="spk_13" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Housing,_Local_Government_and_Heritage">
            <from>Deputy John Cummins<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_36">The Deputy might let me make the point. Yes, there is a phone number that people can call, but because I have been a public representative for over 16 or 17 years, I know that the phone call is oftentimes to the public representative. The Deputies have to be responsive to their communities as well and the only way they can do that is by having the correct and timely information.</p>
            <p eId="para_37"> It is also true to say that Uisce Éireann is responsible for appearing before the Committee of Public Accounts and subject to audit by the Comptroller and Auditor General. I sat on the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage. The officials have appeared before the committee as well as appearing before the Joint Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery.</p>
            <p eId="para_38"> The priority has to now be in terms of lifting the boil water notice. Testing and monitoring are ongoing in the area and that will be continued to be prioritised by Uisce Éireann. I can continue to engage with both Deputies offline.</p>
          </speech>
        </debateSection>
        <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_5">
          <heading>Health Services Staff<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></heading>
          <speech by="#RoseConwayWalsh" eId="spk_14">
            <from>Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:10:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_39">I want to outline for the Minister of State today the impact that the dead hand of the Minister for Health is having on healthcare delivery in County Mayo, starting with clerical support staff. They are essential to safe, accessible community healthcare. Their roles must get agency conversion approval in order to maintain clinical capacity in rural healthcare services. Agency conversions must get approval before the existing clerical officer contract finishes in Swinford. I am talking about the hospitals of Swinford and Belmullet.</p>
            <p eId="para_40">I am talking about the clerical positions, of which there is one in each hospital. Those posts represent a tiny amount of money but provide a lot of support. In Swinford, for example, one person supports five physiotherapists and two speech and language therapists. In Belmullet, one clerical post supports several different therapists and medical staff. They are agency staff and because of the dead hand of the Minister, they are not being allowed to convert those posts into full-time positions. Patients are now facing longer waits and rescheduled appointments as staff are no longer available to manage referrals, records and scheduling. The physiotherapists, public health nurses and other clinicians cannot simultaneously do their jobs, manage patient-facing workloads and also absorb clerical duties. Every hour spent on administration is an hour not spent on treating patients.</p>
            <p eId="para_41"> The communities in Belmullet and Swinford already face geographical and transport barriers when accessing healthcare. Removing local support disproportionately impacts rural patients in these cases. The promise of care closer to home is completely undermined when the staff who keep the local services functioning are withdrawn. One post may look minor on a national staffing spreadsheet but it is crucial to the day-to-day running of a rural healthcare facility. The clerical officers in Swinford and Belmullet have built up months of practical knowledge of local patients, referral pathways and physiotherapy services. The loss of experienced staff means a loss of that institutional knowledge, of continuity and of relationships that cannot be replaced immediately. It makes no sense to lose staff who are already performing essential duties while their posts await agency conversion approval. It is a complete waste of money as well.</p>
            <p eId="para_42"> Through my correspondence with the HSE, I have received confirmation that these posts are in an agency conversion approval system but no firm decision date has been provided. Agency conversion is subject to national pay and staffing controls, budgetary restrictions and available funding. This is the dead hand of the Minister.</p>
            <p eId="para_43"> This matter is urgent because I have been made aware that the current clerical support in Swinford is due to finish tomorrow but the agency conversion cannot take place unless the role is active. I am calling on the Minister of State to relay to the Minister for Health the need for immediate approval and funding of agency conversion for the posts in Belmullet and Swinford, without further delay. I would also like to remind the Minister that there are healthcare assistant posts in Belmullet hospital that have been waiting four years to transfer from agency to full-time staff. The positions are there and are permanent but the Minister insists on keeping them as agency staff. She must restore the appropriate clerical cover on site during the approval process rather than transferring the clerical duties to clinical staff.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health" eId="spk_15">
            <from>Minister of State at the Department of Health (Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:15:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_44">I thank Deputy Conway-Walsh for raising the issue of clerical support at Belmullet Community Hospital and Swinford District Hospital. I can hear the Deputy's passion and I do understand that she is in an area where there are concerns. I am taking this issue on behalf of the Minister for Health and I recognise the importance of both hospitals to their communities. I am aware of the important role that they play in their local communities for families and for everyone involved. The concerns that the Deputy raises today have implications for patients and clinical staff.</p>
            <p eId="para_45"> Belmullet is a 13-bed facility that can cater for step-down, respite and palliative care, providing an important service. Swinford District Hospital is a 40-bed model 1 rehabilitation and community inpatient facility. As part of the HSE's ongoing measures to reduce reliance on off-framework agency staffing, one whole-time equivalent, WTE, agency administrative post in Swinford District Hospital was reduced to 0.5 WTE. The HSE has advised that administrative duties associated with the reduced hours are currently being managed locally through existing staffing arrangements. In Belmullet Community Hospital, the agency administrative post remains in place at one WTE and the HSE has advised that there are no issues currently arising in respect of administrative staffing.</p>
            <p eId="para_46">The management of staffing and the allocation of resources within these facilities are operational matters for the HSE. That does not diminish the importance of the concerns raised for patients and families who need confidence that local services have the support necessary to deliver safe and effective care.</p>
            <p eId="para_47"> Clerical and administrative staff make an important contribution to patient care. Their work supports records management, communications and the scheduling of the day-to-day operation of services. Appropriate administrative support helps clinical staff to focus on the work they are trained to do. It should therefore be considered as part of the overall staffing needs of a service, rather than in isolation. The Deputy has raised concerns about changes to clerical support and the implications for clinical staff. I understand the region is dealing with financial challenges at the moment which may be impacting on recruitment decisions. There are some challenges and I am sure the Deputy is aware of that. My expectation is that the HSE considers the full-service implications of any staffing changes and ensures that appropriate staffing supports are in place. The focus must be on maintaining patient care and making effective use of staff across both hospitals.</p>
            <p eId="para_48"> On the wider recruitment position, there is no blanket recruitment freeze. Recruitment, including the replacement of existing staff, can continue within approved pay allocations, subject to the necessary approvals. This does not mean that every vacancy is automatically filled. The HSE must prioritise recruitment according to patient need, service requirements and resources available. Additional recruitment approval requirements apply to HSE West and North-West as part of the measures to address regional overspending. I recognise that these requirements form part of the context in which local staffing decisions are being made. They provide a process for assessing recruitment proposals on the basis of service need, patient safety risk and affordability. In applying these controls, the HSE must take account of the support needed to maintain essential services, including the contribution of administrative staff to patient care. The objective is to align expenditure with approved funding while protecting essential services and making the best use of available resources. The HSE remains responsible for the delivery of services and for assessing the management of patient safety risks. Financial oversight and the effective delivery of care must be considered together.</p>
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          <speech by="#RoseConwayWalsh" eId="spk_16">
            <from>Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:20:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_49">The problem is that the Minister is wasting money hand over fist by not having the services available in the community for a small cost. That is why you have the back-up in Mayo University Hospital. You cannot send people home without having the therapies and supports in the local community. It costs multiple times more to do that. This carry-on is happening in hospitals because the Minister obviously did not allow enough for existing levels of service. She just did not do that. I do not know if she fully understands the impact of that in terms of overcrowding, ambulances queuing up outside Mayo University Hospital and people staying in beds longer than they should because services are not available in the community. I listened to the Fine Gael Ard-Fheis at the weekend, and I heard talk about the dole. I want the Minister of State to ask the Minister why she is forcing young nurses onto the dole who were given jobs in Mayo University Hospital and in Sligo and Galway hospitals. They are now being told the jobs are not going to start after all. Why are we pushing nurses and clinical staff onto the dole and then not doing within the community what we need to do by putting supports in there? I do not know if it is that the Government does not understand the systems or if it has wrecked the systems to the point where things are collapsing. I am telling the Minister of State that healthcare delivery in Mayo is collapsing and the workers are collapsing with exhaustion. The Minister is standing back to say that the Government does not have enough money for the west and the north west. She had better make the money available. There is money there to waste. She insists on the continuation of waste while she is presiding over what she is presiding over here.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_17" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:25:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_50">I thank the Deputy. I can always say, working with the Minister, that patient care and delivery is always very important for all of us.</p>
            <p eId="para_51"> I recognise the concern is about staffing decisions, which means, in practice for patients, the staff delivery of care at Belmullet and Swinford. The Deputy is talking about clerical supports that help clinical staff to focus on patient care and contribute to the effective running of services. My expectation is that the HSE considers wider benefits than assessing staffing needs at both hospitals so that available resources are used effectively to support patients and staff.</p>
            <p eId="para_52"> I understand that the concerns the Deputy has brought up today are very important. I know the commitment from the Minister, Deputy Carroll MacNeill, and from all of us in the Department of Health. I will raise these concerns. The Deputy can be assured that I will have the HSE respond directly to the Deputy on the issues raised in both Belmullet and Swinford. I assure the Deputy that there is access to safe, effective care. The staffing decision supports and the objectives are important.</p>
            <p eId="para_53"> Rather than reading out the reply again, it is important to say the Deputy can be assured that I will have the HSE come back to her. I will go back to the Minister, Deputy Carroll MacNeill, and highlight the concerns the Deputy raised today.</p>
            <p eId="para_54"> As someone whose daughter is a nurse, I appreciate the work done by our nurses, clerical staff and everybody in the HSE. As the Deputy said, timely access to services is important. The HSE is saying it is working on them. I will come back to the Deputy.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_18">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mattie McGrath)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:25:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_55">I thank the Ceann Comhairle and her team and whatever other committee decided to change the Topical Issue Debate to this time of the day. It is much more functional for everybody, including the staff.</p>
          </speech>
        </debateSection>
        <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_6">
          <heading>Hospital Staff<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:25:00+00:00"/></heading>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_19">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:25:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_56">I am raising the concerns of 36 newly qualified nurses who have completed their university education, undertaken clinical placements and obtained professional registration. They are still waiting for contracts and commencement dates for positions at the midlands regional hospitals in Portlaoise, Mullingar and Tullamore. These graduates completed their HSE recruitment process in June. They are qualified, registered and ready to work but they are unclear about when they can begin their careers. How has this situation been allowed to arise? In February 2024, the HSE announced that nursing and midwifery graduates would be offered permanent employment following completion of their courses and their placements. That commitment was reinforced through engagement with the unions in 2025. These graduates had every reason to expect a clear route to employment. Some have signed rental agreements and made financial commitments in anticipation of starting work.</p>
            <p eId="para_57"> I appreciate that the HSE operates within an allocated budget. However, financial controls must be aligned with workforce planning and the safe delivery of healthcare. It is unacceptable that recruitment campaigns proceed without clear commencement dates. There is also the question of value for money. If the midlands hospitals have nursing vacancies, they are relying on agency nurses while qualified graduates are waiting for permanent employment. Can the HSE explain why permanent appointments cannot proceed and whether agency expenditure represents the best use of public funds? I also want clarity on accountability. Under the HSE regional structure, responsibility for staffing and budgets has been devolved to health regions. If hospitals are identifying staffing needs but cannot make appointments due to financial restrictions, who has the authority to resolve this problem?</p>
            <p eId="para_58"> The Minister's statement on 15 October indicated that there is no general recruitment embargo but there are strengthened controls in four health regions. What controls affect graduate nurses' appointments to the three midlands hospitals? It is welcome that 974 graduate nurses and midwifes nationally have confirmed start days. I welcome that approximately 834 are expected to commence before the end of the year. That is progress, but it does not address the circumstances of these 36 graduates. I am asking the Minister of State to address these matters directly. First, can she immediately clarify to me when these 36 graduates will be offered contracts and commencement dates? Second, will she ask the HSE to provide a breakdown of approved and funded vacancies at Portlaoise, Tullamore and Mullingar?</p>
            <p eId="para_59">Third, what safeguards will be introduced to ensure future graduate recruitment campaigns are properly aligned with funding posts and working requirements?</p>
            <p eId="para_60"> We want nurses to build their careers in Ireland and make a contribution to our health service. We cannot invest in training healthcare professionals and then force them to find employment abroad. These graduates deserve certainty about when they can begin their careers. I have asked the Minister of State questions and would appreciate the answers.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_20" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:30:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_61">I thank Deputy Aird for the opportunity to address the House on staffing matters within the HSE, particularly the issue of contracts for graduate nurses and midwives. I am taking this Topical Issue on behalf of the Minister for Health, Deputy Carroll MacNeill. The Deputy can be assured I will take his concerns back to her.</p>
            <p eId="para_62"> The HSE knows how many nurses and midwives are due to graduate each year, and must plan its recruitment accordingly. Retaining these graduate nurses and midwives is essential to the future of the health service and continues to be a priority for the Minister. However, recruitment must also be strategic, matching graduates to the services and locations where the need is greatest while being aware of the impact on the overall pay bill. The latest data provided by the HSE indicates that nationally, there are 1,375 graduate nurses and midwives, of whom 1,145 have been offered positions to date, with more than 1,000 accepting. This equates to a national offer rate of 83%.</p>
            <p eId="para_63"> The Deputy’s health region, the Dublin and midlands region, has advised there are 105 graduate nurses and midwives, of whom 97 have been offered positions and 88 have accepted. This means that more than 92% of graduates in the region have received an employment offer. In addition, the Department issued approval last week for the recruitment of all remaining graduate nurses and midwives included in the submission received from the Dublin and midlands region. This approval was granted in response to the applications received the previous week.</p>
            <p eId="para_64"> There is no recruitment embargo in the HSE, and recruitment has not been stopped. Strengthened recruitment controls are in place in four regions, including Dublin and the midlands, to ensure that appointments are affordable, properly prioritised, and directed to areas of greatest patient need and service need. I was concerned to hear recent reports that offers made to newly qualified nurses were subsequently withdrawn or delayed. The Deputy raised this issue. This is not acceptable and is not how we should be treating our graduates. The HSE must make every effort to provide employment opportunities for nursing and midwifery graduates but it is important that offers are made in the right locations with the necessary approvals in place.</p>
            <p eId="para_65"> A key part of this strategic approach must be to prioritise direct recruitment into services where vacancies are being filled through sustained agency usage. Nationally, agency expenditure was €536 million in the eight months to the end of August, 11.7% above budget limits. Recruiting graduates directly into roles currently being filled through agency staffing would help retain newly qualified professionals in the public health service, build a more stable permanent workforce, support safe care and service capacity, and deliver better value for the overall pay bill.</p>
            <p eId="para_66"> This is against a backdrop of sustained investment in the health workforce. HSE staffing has increased by almost 30,000 whole-time equivalents since December 2020, with nursing and midwifery accounting for a substantial share of that growth, up 9,924 over the same period. The priority must now be to build on that investment by retaining graduate nurses and midwives, strengthening the permanent workforce, and reducing reliance on agency staffing, while ensuring recruitment remains aligned with service need and the overall pay bill. </p>
            <p eId="para_67"> The Department is engaging closely with the HSE to monitor the recruitment of graduate nurses and midwives. While individual appointments, contracts and commencement dates are operational matters for the HSE, the Department expects these decisions to be processed promptly and graduates to be given clear and timely information regarding an employment offer.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_21">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_68">I thank the Minister of State for her response, but I must bring my question back to the immediate circumstances of the 36 new nursing graduates. These are qualified, registered nurses who have completed their training and successfully progressed through the HSE recruitment process. Their question is simple: when will they start work? I refute what the Minister of State has said. I am too long on the road to accept it. These 36 nurses are out there and still do not have contracts of employment. I need specific answers from the Minister of State about Portlaoise, Tullamore and Mullingar. Can she confirm that the HSE will urgently review the 36 cases, identify the approved and funded vacancies and provide realistic commencement dates? I also want transparency around staffing costs. Are these hospitals paying for agency nurses while qualified graduates are waiting to take up permanent positions? If so, is that financially justifiable?</p>
            <p eId="para_69"> There is a wider lesson here. The HSE knows how many nursing students are completing their courses each year. Workforce needs are predictable. I am not asking for appointments to unfunded posts. I am suggesting that graduate recruitment must be properly co-ordinated with hospital staffing requirements and available funding.</p>
            <p eId="para_70"> I also raise the position of a children's occupational therapist in County Laois, which has been vacant for three years and has been frozen yet again. This position was recruited and accepted, but the offer has now been withdrawn by the HSE. In a week where two families from County Laois have already approached me about occupational therapy services for their children, I find this situation to be totally unacceptable. I am asking the Minister of State to investigate this vacancy as a matter of urgency and to revert to me on behalf of the children of County Laois.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_22" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_71">I again thank the Deputy for raising this important issue. It is important for us to get out the information. Retaining newly qualified nurses and midwives is essential to the future of the health services and remains a clear priority. The latest figures show that 83% of graduates nationally have received employment offers and more than 1,000 have accepted them. Work is continuing to offer posts to the remaining graduates and to confirm start dates. I will read this out to the Deputy again. There is no-----</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_23">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_72">There is no point in reading it back.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_24" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_73">-----recruitment embargo.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_25">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_74">What about the 36?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_26" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_75">Recruitment has not stopped.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_27">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_76">It has.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_28" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_77">The Department issued approval last week to recruit all graduate nurses and midwives that the Dublin and midlands regions have requested. That is the information I am giving here.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_29">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_78">What does the Minister of State mean by "requested"? There are still 36 nurses there with no offer.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_30">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mattie McGrath)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_79">The Minister of State without interruption.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_31" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_80">Last week there were decisions-----</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_32">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_81">You know-----</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_33">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mattie McGrath)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_82">Please, a Theachta.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_34" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_83">What I will do-----</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_35">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_84">Those 36 nurses are still unemployed.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_36">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mattie McGrath)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_85">Please.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_37" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_86">Last week, decisions were made in that regard. I understand. I know. My daughter is a nurse so I understand.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_38">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_87">I confirmed that this morning, to be fair.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach" eId="spk_39">
            <from>An Cathaoirleach Gníomhach (Deputy Mattie McGrath)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_88">Speak through the Chair, please.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_40">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_89">I confirmed it this morning.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_41" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_90">The Deputy is right.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_42">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_91">Yes, I am right.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_43" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_92">He needs that information. As I said, the HSE must make every effort to provide employment opportunities for graduates. As I said, last week, all graduate nurses and midwives that the Dublin and midlands regions have requested have been sorted. With regard to the 36 nurses the Deputy has asked about specifically, I will ensure he gets an answer from the HSE and the Department of Health. The Deputy also spoke about an occupational therapist. I will certainly bring back that issue to the Minister and the HSE.</p>
            <p eId="para_93"> I thank the Deputy. All of us must appreciate the great work that our nurses and staff do. It is important for us. The Deputy can be sure, and I can say this on my behalf and on the behalf of the Minister, Deputy Carroll MacNeill, that all of us in the Department of Health are committed to getting this sorted.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_44">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_94">Is the Minister of State saying to me-----</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_45" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_95">I will come back to the Deputy.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_46">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_96">-----that she will come back to me about the 36 nurses?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_47" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_97">Yes.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#WilliamAird" eId="spk_48">
            <from>Deputy William Aird<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_98">I thank the Minister of State.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor" eId="spk_49" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Health">
            <from>Deputy Jennifer Murnane O'Connor<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_99">I will.</p>
          </speech>
        </debateSection>
        <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_7">
          <heading>Youth Unemployment<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></heading>
          <speech by="#MalcolmByrne" eId="spk_50">
            <from>Deputy Malcolm Byrne<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_100">I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Dillon, for taking this issue. He will be aware that the economy is doing well and, in general terms, we talk about the fact that we have full employment. However, I have a serious concern that the rate of youth unemployment is beginning to creep up again.</p>
            <p eId="para_101">Youth unemployment is defined as unemployment among those aged between 15 and 24. It is now recorded at 11.5%. That is lower than the EU average but I still believe the reason it is at that rate must be a cause for concern. We need to examine the factors behind that and to examine in detail whether there are specific sectors of society and the economy where this is acute. The evidence, although it is not detailed, is that we have a number of urban pockets of disadvantage. It is particularly acute in some of the regions, especially along the Border, in the north west and in the midlands. There is a problem with recent graduates, especially in certain fields. Some of that relates to the experience trap but it is also evidence that we are not seeing the same level of graduate recruitment in certain areas as we did. I have a particular concern about this because it means young people do not have the experience of work that they should have but also that they may become increasingly alienated from the broader society. The rate in Ireland is 11.5% but the EU rate is 15.5%. In countries like Romania, the rate is 30% while in France and Italy the rate is now above 20%. In France there is obviously a particular concern about alienation among that young cohort. Something that particularly frightened me was that in the most recent polling in France voters aged 18 to 24 are turning to the populists as 45% of them said they would back Mélenchon in the next presidential election and 30% said they would back Le Pen. When groups of young people are not given the opportunity so many of us have had of a first job, of training, of an apprenticeship or of going into work as a graduate, then people become alienated.</p>
            <p eId="para_102"> What can we do to address this? The reasons people become unemployed are complex. To the Tánaiste's point, I agree work should always pay and people who are going to work should always be rewarded but it is not a simple matter that people are necessarily refusing employment. There has been a lot of very good work done on this by the National Youth Council of Ireland and youth organisations, including Gorey Youth Needs Group from my area. In resolving this issue, which we need to both tackle and get data on, it is critical to have the voices of young people. There are concerns for young people about transport costs and housing costs near employment. It is a challenge in rural areas. If the cost of going to a job is too significant, it may not make sense to take it up. There remains a concern about the number of hours given to some young people when it comes to employment. I am quite supportive of Mandate's campaign that everybody who is working should be guaranteed a reasonable number of hours in order to make that employment sustainable.</p>
            <p eId="para_103"> There is the danger of young people being stigmatised if they have been unemployed for a period and we have to address that. We need to look at what measures we can put in place to be able to provide the supports. I look forward to hearing the Minister of State's analysis and also to offering some solutions.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#AlanDillon" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Enterprise,_Tourism_and_Employment" eId="spk_51">
            <from>Minister of State at the Department of Enterprise, Tourism and Employment (Deputy Alan Dillon)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:40:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_104">I thank Deputy Byrne for raising this important issue. lreland’s labour market continues to perform strongly, with record employment of over 2.8 million people last year. This reflects the resilience of a strong economy and the success of government policies in supporting job creation, fostering innovation and providing opportunities across sectors for young people to begin exciting careers.</p>
            <p eId="para_105"> However, there has been a slowdown in momentum over the past year, consistent with an uncertain and volatile international macroeconomic environment, tighter monetary policy and a labour market that is close to capacity. It is often younger workers who feel the effects of economic uncertainty most acutely. The unemployment rate among those aged 15 to 24 has increased over the past year to approximately 12%, which is more than twice the economy-wide average. However, this increase remains modest and Ireland continues to perform well compared with our European peers. Having said that, it is really important we continue to focus on measures that help young people make the transition from education into sustainable employment.</p>
            <p eId="para_106">The Department of Enterprise, Tourism and Employment works closely with other Departments on this issue, in particular with the Department of Social Protection through the implementation of Pathways to Work, the Government's strategy for employment services and labour market activation.</p>
            <p eId="para_107"> The Deputy referred to employment incentives. The Department of Enterprise, Tourism and Employment and its agencies will continue promoting employer awareness to encourage uptake of supports such as the work placement experience programme and the expanded JobsPlus subsidy scheme, whereby employers can receive financial support when recruiting eligible jobseekers, helping to reduce hiring costs while also creating opportunities for those with limited work experience.</p>
            <p eId="para_108"> With respect to PRSI, budget 2027 included an increase in the employer PRSI threshold from €552 to €600 per week, helping employers manage labour costs and support recruitment, particularly in sectors that employ significant numbers of younger workers. The Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science leads on training and skills development which are equally important in addressing the challenges and through apprenticeships, Skillnet Ireland, SOLAS programmes, Springboard+ and Skills to Advance, the Government continues to invest in pathways that will continue to provide people with the skills required by a modern economy.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MalcolmByrne" eId="spk_52">
            <from>Deputy Malcolm Byrne<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:45:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_109">I welcome some of the moves on employers' PRSI. We should definitely give more incentives in that area to employers who decide to take on young people. Byrne's bookshops that operate in my home town and home county give good hours to young people but there is a huge cost on the PRSI side and we need to address it.</p>
            <p eId="para_110"> We need to look more generally. I am conscious that the Minister of State talked about work placements. If we look at the lowest rates of youth unemployment across Europe, they are in Germany and Czechia, where they are about 6.5% to 7.5%. As he knows, there is a far greater emphasis there on academic and vocational tracks in education. Young people get the opportunity to work in a company. Businesses, along with the trade unions, are involved in designing the training that goes into some of these job placements. Particularly given the transformational nature of AI and other new technologies in what is happening, it is critical that we have a programme in place whereby young people can get the necessary experience because frequently when they apply for a job they fall into what is called the experience trap and they do not get the opportunities to be able to progress.</p>
            <p eId="para_111"> We should look perhaps at summer programmes that will allow young people to be able to improve skills. We also need to look at further measures in SUSI, where young people are working. In fairness to the Minister, Deputy James Lawless, he has made a number of improvements there but it should not be a disincentive that if a young person wants to do additional work to gain money and experience that they should not be disadvantaged in terms of the SUSI grant. My overall point is that we should be concerned that we are starting to see the rate of youth unemployment creep up and I believe it should be a priority for the Minister of State’s Department.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#AlanDillon" eId="spk_53" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Enterprise,_Tourism_and_Employment">
            <from>Deputy Alan Dillon<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:45:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_112">I again thank Deputy Byrne for raising this important matter. As Minister of State with responsibility for employment, I acknowledge the concerns he has raised here this afternoon. Ireland continues to have a strong labour market, record employment and significant opportunities for young people. Our focus now is very much to give every young person the skills, experience and also the opportunity to secure a good quality job, build a career and build for a future in Ireland.</p>
            <p eId="para_113"> At the same, the Deputy mentioned AI. I do not think we can pretend that it is not changing the labour market; it is, but the challenge for the Government is not to resist the technological change but to ensure that young people are prepared and can benefit from it. That is why we are investing in skills, apprenticeships, lifelong learning and digital capability to ensure that young people are equipped to secure jobs into the future. When we talk to many young people, they do not want temporary schemes; they want real jobs and careers.</p>
            <p eId="para_114">Part of that is ensuring that we have the pathways from education into employment and ensuring that employers have the confidence to hire young people. That is why we are supporting both businesses and workers in that regard. The best guarantee that any Government can give is that the economy continues to be supported through real and proper policy but also that creates opportunities.</p>
          </speech>
        </debateSection>
        <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_8">
          <heading>Public Transport<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:50:00+00:00"/></heading>
          <speech by="#BrianStanley" eId="spk_54">
            <from>Deputy Brian Stanley<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:50:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_115">I am glad the Minister of State, Deputy Canney, is here for this discussion. The roads are congested. The N7 is bumper to bumper. Journey times have doubled from Portlaoise to Dublin. We are supposed to be reducing our carbon emissions but we need to give people options. At the moment the option is using trains or buses but the problem is that the trains are packed. Trains from Ballybrophy, Portlaoise and Portarlington going to Dublin are full. It is a success story in a way, in that there are crowds of people on the platforms in Portlaoise, Ballybrophy and Portarlington when there used to be half a dozen going back a few short years ago. The number of passengers has increased dramatically. However, the number of carriages has reduced. One train that used to have five carriages now has three carriages. We have fewer carriages. People are standing in corridors and sitting on the floor. That is okay for a short trip. I heard a Minister say recently that we can expect that across Europe. That is okay on commuter trains within a city or wherever for ten minutes or half an hour or on the London tube but when a passenger is there for hours like that, it is not good enough and it is unsafe. People with disabilities are struggling. For people who have a guide dog with them or for people in wheelchairs, it is really difficult. We need to be giving people a little bit of safety and comfort.</p>
            <p eId="para_116"> I want the Minister of State to focus on this. I know he takes public transport seriously. I welcome that he has focused in on it since he has taken over as Minister for State but he needs to give this a razor-like sharpness. Is money approved for new carriages? How many new carriages will there be? When will see those new carriages on the tracks?</p>
            <p eId="para_117"> The CEO of Iarnród Éireann, Mary Constine, said that everything the body has is rolling - everything that is fit to roll. Are there carriages that need to be reconditioned that can be used in the short term? What can be done? Do not tell me that it is an operational matter. Everything is an operational matter but the Government writes the cheque. The Government needs to ensure that all resources that we have are being utilised.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MarkWall" eId="spk_55" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mark Wall<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:50:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_118">I, too, am glad to see the Minister of State in front of us today. I have been raising this for the past number of months. I have engaged with the Minister of State previously on this. Over the past number of weeks, more and more commuters are coming to me daily. More and more commuters are experiencing hardship and overcrowding on our commuter lines. It is growing daily. Some of the stories that I have put on the record of this Dáil are horrific. Today, I want to put more stories on the record of real life experiences. One commuter said:</p>
            <p class="indent_1" eId="para_119">I am 20 weeks pregnant and struggling to get a seat, often left standing in the carriages. I have had two episodes now where I have had to get off the train because I felt dizzy and I felt faint due to the claustrophobic and warm nature of the trains.</p>
            <p eId="para_120"> That is just one example. The next example stated:</p>
            <p class="indent_1" eId="para_121">I travelled to Dublin Heuston five days a week. The majority of the time I stand on my way to and from where I begin in Newbridge. Yesterday, I did experience an episode where I felt like collapsing. I was absolutely drained before the working day even began. This is followed by the same experience on the train that I take home.</p>
            <p eId="para_122"> This is happening on a daily basis on the lines that go through my county of Kildare.</p>
            <p eId="para_123"> I have questions for the Minister of State. When will see proper health and safety introduced on these lines? As my colleague asked, when are going to see new carriages? From all the parliamentary questions that I put down, I am informed that a number of carriages will be freed up in the middle of next year. What we need to see are those carriages coming onto the Waterford line and the lines going through County Kildare because it is an issue with so many commuters at the moment. When can we see an early train on the Waterford line so that people can get into work on time? I put on the record here before, and I am going to do it again, that a doctor working in St. James's Hospital who gets the train from hometown from Athy each morning cannot get into work for 8 a.m.</p>
            <p eId="para_124">That is unacceptable in this day and age and needs to change.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#SeanCanney" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Transport" eId="spk_56">
            <from>Minister of State at the Department of Transport (Deputy Seán Canney)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:55:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_125">I thank the Deputies for raising the issue of overcrowding on mainline rail, Luas and some bus services, in addition to the ongoing overcrowding on train lines serving Kildare South, including the Waterford, Limerick, Galway, Athlone, Portlaoise and Kilkenny lines. Deputy Stanley will not agree with my response. I have responsibility for transport but my officials are not involved in day-to-day operations. That does not mean that we are not taking responsibility. The statutory responsibility for securing public transport services rests with the National Transport Authority, NTA. It works with the public transport operators which deliver the services. That said, I want to reassure the Deputies that the Government is strongly committed to providing all citizens with reliable and realistic sustainable mobility options, and public transport plays a key role in the delivery of this goal. </p>
            <p eId="para_126"> To support this objective, in budget 2026 the Department of Transport secured €940 million for public service obligation, PSO, and TFI Local Link services, an increase from €658 million in 2025. As announced in this year's budget, we are investing over €1 billion in public transport services that people rely on every day, with €1.042 billion allocated to PSO services across our bus, light rail and heavy rail networks. This represents an 11% increase in the PSO. The funding is about more than maintaining existing services and will also support the continued expansion and enhancement of our public transport network, with almost 140 new and enhanced services in the planning pipeline for 2027 across our flagship programmes such as Connecting Ireland, BusConnects and new town services. Separately, this investment includes almost €60 million in capital funding to maintain and renew our rail assets, including essential rolling stock and equipment to keep our rail network safe, reliable and fit for the future. </p>
            <p eId="para_127"> I understand the Deputies want to discuss overcrowding on public transport services. I would like to inform the Deputies that the NTA and Irish Rail have established a working group to jointly plan and implement changes and enhancements to the rail timetable. As part of the planning process, the NTA has also run public consultations to gauge the public response to changes to services and inform the demand for, and priority of, future potential enhancements. Iarnród Éireann saw record passenger numbers in 2025 of over 55 million passenger journeys, a figure that is growing further in 2026. To address this, it has confirmed to the Department it currently operates all available trains on a daily basis, outside of the required maintenance cycles to ensure reliability and to deal with any repairs which may be taking place. It is maximising use of their rolling stock to meet demand and will continue to monitor passenger loadings.</p>
            <p eId="para_128"> Irish Rail confirmed it recognises that this is creating pressure on capacity on some services at the busiest times at present. While its trains are busy, they are designed to safely accommodate full loading at our busiest times, although it appreciates this can be uncomfortable. In addition, it is pleased to advise that new trains will begin entering the system in 2027, which will provide extra capacity on the network. </p>
            <p eId="para_129"> To date, 285 new DART carriages have been ordered and Irish Rail has confirmed that the first order of 95 carriages will directly benefit the Drogheda line, with 65 battery electric carriages and the existing DART+ line. However, this will also allow Intercity and commuter trains currently operating on the Drogheda line to be used on other routes around the network, including commuter routes. Their deployment will be subject to review with, and the approval of, the NTA, subject to demand and infrastructure capacity at the time. This process will be repeated with the introduction of a further 90 battery electric carriages, freeing up existing trains, while the remaining 100 electric carriages will ultimately replace the original DART fleet, which has been in operation since 1984.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#BrianStanley" eId="spk_57">
            <from>Deputy Brian Stanley<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T13:55:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_130">It is welcome that new carriages have been ordered but it is just one statistic from working groups in Iarnród Éireann and the NTA. Ultimately, the Minister writes the cheque and the more convoluted the process is the further it gets away from everybody, including those of us in here. The Minister of State needs to ensure that there has been delivery on the money that has been provided. I welcome that there is extra funding but we are trying to get people off the roads and onto rail, and make it easier for them to do so. The Minister of State has to make sure this happens and the process is followed through on. Sometimes the doors of the Luas trams will not close because so many people are trying to squeeze onto them. It is not a safe situation.</p>
            <p eId="para_131">I ask the Minister of State again to look at the situation with higher fares. He may say that fares have to be increased, but 15% in the month of January when the bills start coming in on top of everything else is excessive. I ask for the Minister of State's Department to go back and look at that again.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#MarkWall" eId="spk_58" as="#An_Cathaoirleach_Gníomhach">
            <from>Deputy Mark Wall<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:00:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_132">I thank the Minister of State for his reply. I want to draw his attention to what he said to us. He said that the trains were designed to safely accommodate full loading at the busiest times. I have given the Minister of State examples of people standing on top of one another. If one of those trains stops urgently, what is going to happen to those people? These are the questions I am being asked. That is why I am asking the Minister of State to address the health and safety issues that are on these trains, which are so overcrowded.</p>
            <p eId="para_133"> Labour has introduced a Bill on remote working to try to allow more people to work remotely. That is a solution that the Government needs to look at. I will repeat that we need to see extra carriages being put onto those trains on the Waterford line to allow early trains and to remove the burden on the current number of carriages. There are plenty of houses being built in south Kildare, but we do not have the facilities for them. We need to see those carriages installed as quickly as possible.</p>
            <p eId="para_134"> I appeal to the Minister of State to look at the health and safety issues. I appeal to him to try to get those carriages on that line from Waterford, Carlow and Athy to Dublin as quickly as possible.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#SeanCanney" eId="spk_59" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_Transport">
            <from>Deputy Seán Canney<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:00:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_135">What we are talking about here is pressure on our rail lines. It just shows how important the rail network is and how it has been growing over the years. Twenty years ago, we were closing rail lines. Now, we are opening them up. We need to invest in the carriages to make sure that people have a good experience and continue using public transport. That is what we are doing. From next year, we will have additional carriages coming on stream. Additional carriages will be going onto the commuter lines and the intercity lines because we are bringing in more new carriages. This is a good news story.</p>
            <p eId="para_136"> I say to people that I understand the pressure they are under when they are in these carriages, which are packed. I see more students using the rail network, which is why there are peak times for them as well. If we get students using rail and they get used to it and have a good experience, they will probably never have to buy a car. That is the end goal. We have to keep working at it.</p>
            <p eId="para_137"> I thank the Deputies for their contributions today and for their support in making sure Irish Rail continues to do its work safely.</p>
          </speech>
        </debateSection>
      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="questions" eId="dbsect_9">
        <heading>Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:00:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_60">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_138">We will now move to Leaders' Questions under Standing Order 38. I call Deputy Mary Lou McDonald.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_61">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_139">On Thursday, the French President, the German Chancellor and the leaders of other EU states that are also members of NATO are coming to Dublin. Europe's direction of travel is clear: greater militarisation, deeper defence integration and even closer alignment with NATO. It is little wonder, therefore, that leaders and the Minister's Government will be joined by the secretary general of NATO. His presence further underlines the increasingly militarised political environment taking shape across Europe. The European Commission has made that direction very explicit in its rearming Europe plan, which aims to mobilise up to €800 billion for defence investment, including €150 billion in EU-backed loans. These are vast sums being directed towards building up Europe's military capacity and, of course, the arms industry.</p>
          <p eId="para_140"> That is the context in which this Government is seeking to ditch the triple lock, rush legislation through the Dáil and undermine Irish neutrality with absolutely no reference to the people. The Government's position flies in the face of commitments made to the Irish people during the Nice and Lisbon referendum campaigns. Explicit guarantees had to be secured that EU defence co-operation would not compromise Ireland's military neutrality. The triple lock is at the very heart of that guarantee, so the Government cannot now dismiss it as a technicality. It is, in fact, the mechanism designed to protect our neutrality or, as Micheál Martin said in this House in 2013, it is at the core of our neutrality.</p>
          <p eId="para_141"> Let us be clear: the triple lock does not prevent Irish peacekeeping. What it does is anchor Irish overseas deployments in international legitimacy and democratic scrutiny.</p>
          <p eId="para_142">Under it, our soldiers, their families and the Irish people know that they are acting in accordance with international law, under a UN mandate, and honourably fulfilling their duties as soldiers of an independent Irish State. Tá muintir na hÉireann bródúil as ár neodrachas. Tuigeann siad an tábhacht agus luach a bhaineann leis. Pé rud a cheapann an Rialtas, ba chóir go mbeadh an seans ag na daoine a gcuid tuairimí a chur in iúl. Mar sin de, ní mór reifreann a reáchtáil ar an neodracht.</p>
          <p eId="para_143"> Whatever the Government may think, Irish people want Ireland to remain neutral. They understand the value of that policy even if the Government does not. Neutrality has allowed us to make an independent contribution to peace and to speak with our own voice rather than following the military priorities of others. The Government now wants to force the Dáil to ditch this key safeguard. It is doing so with its eyes wide open to Europe's direction of travel, with increased militarisation, closer alignment to NATO, hundreds of billions of euro being committed to arms and a clear disregard for the views and wishes of the Irish people. I believe this to be a profound betrayal of commitments made to the Irish people and a direct assault on Ireland's neutrality. The Government has no mandate and no right to abandon Irish neutrality or to ditch the triple lock without explicit reference to the people. What is it afraid of? It should put the question to the people and make its case. Bring the issue to a referendum.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#" eId="spk_62">
          <from> Deputies<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_144">Hear, hear.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation" eId="spk_63">
          <from>Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation (Deputy Jack Chambers)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_145">This is more misleading nonsense from Sinn Féin with a flavour of Euroscepticism, which is what we have heard from the party for many years. The Deputy's presentation is completely disingenuous. This legislative change is all about reform and keeping alive the Irish tradition of peacekeeping. The Deputy is willing to abandon that proud tradition of peacekeeping. As a Government, we are not. That is the fundamental difference between us.</p>
          <p eId="para_146"> Without the reform we are proposing, Ireland will no longer have the capacity in many instances to participate in peacekeeping around the world. Without the reform we are proposing, our military will no longer have any meaningful international role. Does the Deputy understand that? Does she have any heed of or care for what that would do to recruitment and retention in the military? She needs to be honest with military personnel and their families at this point.</p>
          <p eId="para_147"> With the illegal and immoral invasion of Ukraine, the element of the triple lock that requires Russian approval for the deployment of Irish peacekeepers became unfit for purpose. The Government will not allow Russia, China, Britain, the US or anyone else to have a veto over our independent foreign and security policy. To whom does Sinn Féin want to give that veto?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#" eId="spk_64">
          <from> Deputies<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_148">The Irish people.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_65" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_149">Deputy McDonald is casually throwing around accusations about Ireland's neutrality. Of course, she has form in that regard. For years, she has been making the claim that our neutrality is being attacked. In fact, Sinn Féin declared it dead in 1972, 2003, 2008 and on many other occasions. Neutrality is about Ireland's ability to act independently and not to have legal obligations to participate in any conflict. That will not change. If we really value our independence when it comes to foreign policy and defence, our decisions on whether to participate in peacekeeping initiatives should not be subject to the veto of any other country.</p>
          <p eId="para_150"> My party was clear in our manifesto before the last general election on the need for reform in this area, and that is reflected in the programme for Government. The Defence (Amendment) Bill will provide for the removal of any foreign veto in relation to the dispatch of Defence Forces members for service outside the State as part of an international peacekeeping force. Any modification to the triple lock continues to require the Government of the day and a majority in this House to approve the dispatch of Defence Forces personnel to take part in peacekeeping and any similar missions. The proposed changes are a reassertion of our neutrality and of our right to make our own independent decisions and to act as an independent country. This reinforces Ireland's ability to pursue an independent foreign policy by removing the power of the UN Security Council's permanent members to veto our national sovereign decisions and will allow the Defence Forces to respond to crisis situations affecting our citizens with more agility and effectiveness.</p>
          <p eId="para_151">Stop being disingenuous. The Deputy's mask has slipped again in trying to attack the European political community meeting. What is it that Sinn Féin has against the European Union? It is a union that has shown incredible solidarity against the illegal invasion of Ukraine and in many other areas of policy that matter to people across this country.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaireDevine" eId="spk_66">
          <from>Deputy Máire Devine<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_152">Focus on the question.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_67" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_153">The reform being made here is simply to reinforce the sovereign decisions of the Dáil and also of the decisions of the Government in the context of the veto within the UN Security Council, which is a change that does have a mandate, was reflected in the general election, and is something that the Government wants to progress.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_68">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_154">Let me be explicit for the Minister. We will challenge the €800 billion of proposed spending in defence, armaments and warfare. Every day of the week we will challenge the European Union and the Government on that. This is the only honourable thing to do. The Government chooses a different course but does not even have the integrity to be honest about what it is at. Just so the Minister knows, peacekeeping missions by definition require a UN mandate. In the absence of a UN mandate, it is no longer a peacekeeping mission. It is actually as simple as that. The Minister knows well the direction of travel of the European Union towards NATO, towards armaments and towards warfare. We wish to keep Ireland out of that. We wish to retain our noble tradition of neutrality, the very thing that has allowed us to make our contributions to the world.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_69">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_155">The Minister, Deputy Chambers, to respond.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_70">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_156">The Minister asks about the veto. The Irish people have the veto on this and the Minister has no right to ditch our neutrality-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#PaulMcAuliffe" eId="spk_71">
          <from>Deputy Paul McAuliffe<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_157">Sinn Féin Members are the only ones-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_72">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_158">Deputy McDonald's time is up.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_73">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_159">-----without going and asking for the democratic permission of the Irish people to do so.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#" eId="spk_74">
          <from> Deputies<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_160">Hear, hear.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_75">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_161">Deputy McDonald's time is up. I call the Minister.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_76" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_162">We are not proposing any sort of military alliance. The Deputy is completely misleading the Dáil in what she is suggesting. We have no intention of joining NATO. There is no plan to join NATO and there is no mandate to join NATO. That is not what we are doing.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ConorDMcGuinness" eId="spk_77">
          <from>Deputy Conor D. McGuinness<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_163">There is no mandate to get rid of the triple lock.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_78" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_164">Deputy McDonald is completely misrepresenting the position of the Irish Government, day in and day out.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_79">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_165">No, I am not.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_80" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_166">This is a reform to remove the veto of Sinn Féin's friends in Russia and others. What does it have against that? Why does it want to acquiesce to major powers and give them the right to decide or veto where we deploy our troops?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_81">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_167">Is the Minister actually that ignorant or naive?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_82" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_168">This is a reinforcement of the democratic position of this Parliament, it reinforces the democratic position of the Irish Government, and we have no plan to join any military alliance. We co-operate with other EU member states, primarily in the interests of peacekeeping-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_83">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_169">Then put the case to the people.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_84" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_170">That is our central focus. That is where we have a strong record and we want to continue that record for the years to come.</p>
          <p eId="para_171"> The Deputy should speak to military families. Speak to them when-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_85">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_172">They live in my constituency.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_86" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_173">Are you telling them that they will be deployed nowhere into the future because of your policy on this position?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ConorDMcGuinness" eId="spk_87">
          <from>Deputy Conor D. McGuinness<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_174">They want fair pay.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_88">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_175">People are not joining because you are not paying them properly.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_89">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_176">I remind Members to speak through the Chair and allow all contributions without interruption. Deputy O'Callaghan, please.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#CianOCallaghan" eId="spk_90">
          <from>Deputy Cian O'Callaghan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_177">There were almost 70 patients on trolleys and in chairs at Cork University Hospital, CUH, yesterday morning, most of them elderly. Trolley to trolley, they were backed up against one another in bright noisy corridors, some of them beside drafty windows, making rest and recovery impossible. On the "Today with David McCullagh" show this morning, the professor of emergency medicine, Conor Deasy, described conditions as tantamount to torture. The staff in CUH are under immense pressure. They are trying their very best to treat their patients in overcrowded and unsafe conditions.</p>
          <p eId="para_178"> None of this should come as surprise to the Government because it has been on notice of a developing crisis in CUH all year. Staffing shortages were first raised by the hospital back in April. In August, in desperation, the CEO of the hospital Jennifer Kearney wrote to HSE in very stark terms. She said that conditions at the hospital were unsustainable and it was not safe to enter the winter period with the current level of staffing shortages. Instead of being listened to, her concerns were dismissed and at a meeting with HSE officials she was threatened with performance management. Jennifer Kearney did her best to warn the Government of what was coming but instead of listening to her, the Minister for Health went on the attack. She lambasted CUH and said appeals for additional staff were unrealistic.</p>
          <p eId="para_179">Now look where we are. Surgeries for cancer patients have been cancelled at short notice. Women admitted for breast cancer surgery, some already in hospital gowns, were sent home. Imagine enduring the anxiety, fear and emotional strain that comes before a major surgery, only to be told at the last minute that it would not go ahead. No patient should ever be put through this type of ordeal. Nine clinical directors at the hospital have written to the Taoiseach to outline their serious concerns. They said that of the 172 priority posts that are urgently required, just seven have been approved.</p>
          <p eId="para_180"> The winter is just beginning and the pressure on the hospital is going to increase. What will it take before the Government acts and will the Minister agree to an independent assessment of staffing needs at CUH as a matter of urgency?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_91" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_181">I acknowledge the tremendous work being done across our health system by staff in all of our acute hospitals, particularly as we get into the winter period, which brings additional challenges and demand. Since 2020, there has been a record level of investment and staffing increases right across the system - more staff, more beds and more services available universally. We have embedded reforms with the public-only consultant contract and many other benefits are being brought to patients and staff, with a focus on community healthcare in particular. The Minister for Health has led in driving reform, with requests coming in for additional spending.</p>
          <p eId="para_182"> The pressures facing CUH are facing all hospitals across the HSE as we head into the winter period. This pressure arises from increased demand. Between 2019 and 2025, emergency department attendance has increased by 28% while inpatient day case and outpatient activity has also increased. Emergency department attendances in CUH increased by 11% from September last year to September of this year. Successive Governments in recent years have supported CUH. Look at the staff increases and the low overall level of investment. Between 2019 and 2025, funding increased by 98% from €303 million to €600 million. This has driven notable growth in staffing levels. Some 107 additional beds have been added since 2020, an increase of 19%. Staffing increased by 41% from 3,500 to over 4,870. In this year alone, CUH has recruited and grown its staff complement by 324 from 4,870 to 5,194, which is an increase of over 6% compared to a 3% growth more generally across Department of Health-funded HSE services.</p>
          <p eId="para_183"> The Government's investment in CUH is clear, but there has to be evaluation of where the staffing decisions were made within management in terms of where they were prioritised and allocated and what those allocations have achieved in the context of significant increases in expenditure and-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#LiamQuaide" eId="spk_92">
          <from>Deputy Liam Quaide<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_184">It is 1,000 staff short.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_93" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_185">-----significant increases in investment in recent years. The context here cannot just be about more spending, more staffing and additionality everywhere.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#LiamQuaide" eId="spk_94">
          <from>Deputy Liam Quaide<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_186">It is 1,000 staff short.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_95">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_187">Deputy Quaide did not ask the question.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_96" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_188">We need to balance that genuine request that comes, at times, from management with a focus on reform and the need to strategically deploy staffing in the best way, as the Minister for Health has reflected in recent years.</p>
          <p eId="para_189"> In terms of the Deputy's wider question, based on an assessment received from the HSE on quality and patient safety, the overall position regarding patient safety in CUH is reassuring, notwithstanding pressures associated with increased demand. The Minister for Health is continuously monitoring this issue. It is reflected in the broader staff increases we have made in recent years and the huge investment in CUH as a critical hospital in the southern region.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#CianOCallaghan" eId="spk_97">
          <from>Deputy Cian O'Callaghan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_190">Has the Minister nothing to say to the almost 70 people who were on trolleys and chairs yesterday, most of them elderly? He did not even acknowledge them in his response, or what they were going through. Has he nothing to say to the patients with cancer, some of whom were in their gowns ready for surgery and who had to be sent home? He did not even acknowledge them in his answer. Has he nothing to say to them? All he can do is come in here and blame the hospital management, the very management that has been crying out for help to deal with the staffing shortage.</p>
          <p eId="para_191">The request is for an independent assessment of staffing need. What has the Government got against such an independent assessment? Why will it not support that? Why will it not action that? An independent assessment is a very reasonable request. There are 1,000 vacant posts in the hospital. There are 172 urgently required to be filled and all the Government is allowing are seven of those to be filled.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_98" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_192">I absolutely acknowledge the specific circumstances of patients. There is a responsibility in the hospital and in the HSE region to meet the respective demands with the staffing increases that we have funded and budgeted for in recent years.</p>
          <p eId="para_193"> On the Deputy's question about HIQA conducting an announced inspection in CUH to monitor against the national standards for safer and better healthcare on 5 and 6 November, of course there has to be evaluation of patient safety in all hospitals and funded healthcare regions. That is a standard that absolutely must be met. There is also the need within the HSE regions to prioritise posts within their budgets.</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_4">(Interruptions).</summary>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_99" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_194">We obviously have a new control environment in the Department of Health-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#LiamQuaide" eId="spk_100">
          <from>Deputy Liam Quaide<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_195">Where should the money go?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_101">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_196">Deputies, please.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_102" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_197">-----and the Minister for Health is authorising specific posts where they are strategically placed in the context of the region. The facts are clear, however. Funding is up in CUH. In addition to many other hospitals,-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#CianOCallaghan" eId="spk_103">
          <from>Deputy Cian O'Callaghan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_198">The Minister should answer the question.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_104">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_199">I thank the Minister. Time is up.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_105" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_200">-----it is up relevant to the investment in recent years, and that will continue to be the case in the next few years.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_106">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_201">I call Deputy Bacik.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_107">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_202">We are at the eleventh hour again as Government and union representatives return to the Workplace Relations Commission, WRC. I want to express my solidarity with public sector workers facing the prospect of another strike on Thursday, potentially. All they want is fair pay and respect. We all know that the talks are ongoing. We hope for a speedy resolution. I will say this, however. It was not respectful for the Government to wait so long to engage meaningfully with unions when the last pay deal ran out months ago.</p>
          <p eId="para_203"> This morning, we heard stories from one group of public sector workers on the front line, with a shocking report from Cork University Hospital on David McCullagh's radio show. We heard a harrowing account of conditions at CUH for healthcare workers and patients alike, with 70 patients on trolleys in corridors and waiting areas in emergency departments. One woman described her elderly mother asking for help to go to the bathroom for two hours. All resuscitation beds are full and there is no capacity for fresh admissions. One medic said patients were experiencing a form of torture, while staff are working in intolerable conditions compounded by a severe staffing crisis.</p>
          <p eId="para_204"> As we know, the hospital CEO, Jennifer Kearney, said the hospital was short more than 1,000 staff coming into the winter period. That is a shocking figure. Doctors are now warning that people will die because the hospital cannot deliver timely, quality care due to the Government's recruitment freeze. Indeed, we learned that CUH may now face quarterly fines of €300,000 for non-compliance with labour laws on breaks and hours. Yet, the Minister for Health has the temerity to insist that CUH is operating on par with other hospitals. In today's <i>The Irish Times</i>, Beaumont emergency consultant Dr. Peadar Gilligan points out that the ordinary state of affairs in Irish hospitals is unsafe. Unsafe conditions have become the norm, so CUH being on par with other hospitals is of no reassurance, not to nurses preparing to strike again when they know their best efforts are no guarantee of safe care. It is not reassuring for patients either now being told they may not receive treatment until the new year. It is not reassuring for sick people in chairs in emergency departments, deteriorating while they wait to be seen.</p>
          <p eId="para_205"> This is not just the case for patients and staff in Cork. Trolley numbers across the country are up 12% on last year. This September was the worst on record for overcrowding nationally, with more than 12,000 patients treated in inappropriate locations. The Minister boasted earlier about levels of investment in Cork and in the national health service but as Deputy Sherlock, Labour's health spokesperson, said, there is a huge gap here between the reality of healthcare budgets and the sort of wishful thinking in which the Government is engaging. She points out the gap between funding allocation for health services and the budget. She points out that the HSE is on course to record the second largest health deficit ever of over €1 billion. The Minister is telling us the HSE broke even last year when it actually recorded a deficit of close to €250 million.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_108">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_206">I thank the Deputy. The Minister to respond.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_109">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_207">People are asking where the reality is. Will the Minister admit that the Government underfunded the health service this year? Will the Government lift what is a recruitment freeze in all but name to guarantee patient safety?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_110">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_208">The Minister to respond, please.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_111" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_209">It really is just such a lazy narrative from the Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_112">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_210">It is really not.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_113" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_211">More spending; that is Labour. It just wants more spending.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#LiamQuaide" eId="spk_114">
          <from>Deputy Liam Quaide<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_212">Spend the money; it is understaffed.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_115">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_213">It is understaffed.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_116">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_214">I am sorry; through the Chair and without interruption.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#GeraldNash" eId="spk_117">
          <from>Deputy Ged Nash<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_215">The Government is lowballing here.</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_5">(Interruptions).</summary>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_118" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_216">By any metric, the Irish health system is well funded compared internationally. We have a €27.4 billion budget in 2026. It has increased in the last few years by €10 billion. That is underpinned by workforce growth in terms of the number of whole-time equivalents by over 30,000. The workforce was at 133,000 as of September 2026, a 30% increase since 2019. The health system has been a central priority for this Government in terms of public investment and the expansion of public services and that has been reflected over the last series of budgets. However, it is important that we balance the big increase and expansion in the service with the need for a control environment that is sustainable. That is what the Minister for Health is doing with the Department of Health in respect of the different regions. If we look at the facts around CUH, we see that funding has grown from €303 million in 2019 to €600 million, with a notable increase in staffing levels and 107 additional beds.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#LiamQuaide" eId="spk_119">
          <from>Deputy Liam Quaide<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_217">It is 341 beds short.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_120" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_218">Of course, there are going to be requests. In debates around health spending, the Opposition always looks for more. Ultimately, it comes down to the wider investment, what way it is organised and how it is delivering across our system. What is the balance between investment in acute care and investment in community healthcare when there is always demand within our hospital system? That underpins the wider policy when it comes to Sláintecare. The same is true of the budget in 2027, where we have continued to prioritise investment in our health system.</p>
          <p eId="para_219"> Just saying that it is not enough is not a policy position in itself, which is what we hear repeatedly from Deputy Bacik. The facts speak for themselves around investment and staff expansion and that will continue, particularly as we have seen increased demographic demand in recent years.</p>
          <p eId="para_220"> I will speak briefly to the Deputy's question and point around the public service pay talks. I am not going to comment any further except to say that negotiations are confidential. It was positive to see a conclusion and resolution at the independent group, chaired by Kevin Foley. We want to see intensive engagement continue through the day so that we have a successful outcome for all parties. That underpins a Government that wants to prioritise public service expansion, support workers on the front line and ensure that the health system continues to be well funded in the years to come, but it is about how we organise that in the context of the budgetary growth in recent years.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_121">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_221">With respect, the response there was laughable. The figures speak for themselves. The health service is in deficit, the HSE is in deficit and the Supplementary Estimates give lie to the figures the Minister has quoted. We know that the health budget is not a reality. It is a work of fiction. Patients and healthcare workers deserve a budget based on reality and on an acknowledgement that there is chronic short-staffing across the system.</p>
          <p eId="para_222"> Quite apart from the psychodrama that we are seeing playing out between the Taoiseach, the Minister and hospital management, the most disturbing feature of the CUH controversy is the patient safety issue. That is the real core of this. The warning bells have been ringing loudly for some time now, yet the Government's response has been to focus on how concerns were communicated instead of looking at how to fix the problem by addressing the chronic shortfall in staffing. We have seen a bombastic, arrogant reaction, just as we saw from the Minister for justice, Deputy O'Callaghan, in his response to concerns about the legal aid scheme and in the Government's response when the public sector unions signalled how badly the cost of living was hitting their members.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_122">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_223">Thank you, Deputy. I call the Minister.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_123">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_224">What we need is a budget for the health service that is rooted in reality-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_124">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_225">Your time is up, Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_125">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_226">-----and enables hospitals to recruit enough staff to treat patients and ensure patient safety.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_126">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_227">The Minister to respond.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_127" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_228">The reality of the health budget is that it has increased by over €10 billion in a short number of years. That is an exponential increase. The reality of the health budget is that we have nearly 30,000 more staff working in the health system in the last number of years. We have to ensure that the health budget is sustainable and affordable into the long term. What is the Deputy suggesting? Is it just endless exponential increases that ultimately are not sustainable?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_128">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_229">Look at the actual need honestly.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_129" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_230">We have prioritised funding our health system and by any metric, the expansion has been unprecedented in the last five to six years, particularly coming out of Covid when we had to increase capacity in our acute hospitals. That has happened with the significant staff increases universally.</p>
          <p eId="para_231"> The Government takes patient safety very seriously. That is why the HSE's quality and patient safety team carried out an assessment at CUH, and there is obviously work being done by HIQA to ensure that safety standards are upheld.</p>
          <p eId="para_232">We need to ensure as well that the overall funding envelope in health has a control environment that works and is sustainable, and prioritises community healthcare in the context of Sláintecare.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_130">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_233">The gathering of European leaders and, significantly, the head of NATO in Dublin this weekend highlights the misguided priorities of this Government and European leaders. It seems that European leaders and this Government think there are endless billions for weapons, militarism and war. However, the treatment of working people looking for a pay increase that matches inflation is much less of a priority. The same can be said of the patients in CUH whom a consultant has described as being tortured in that hospital because of the lack of staff and resources. Is it not a stark contrast? I do not know how much money is being spent but the Minister might tell us. I would say millions are being spent to roll out the red carpet for all of these EU leaders and the head of NATO, and to wine and dine them in the National Gallery.</p>
          <p eId="para_234"> Regardless of what happens with the pay increases, workers have had to go out on strike to get a pay increase from a Government that is trying hold back on them. It refuses to give them a pay increase that will keep pace with inflation unless they go out on strike and threaten another strike. That is really my question to the Minister. How come there are endless billions for weapons of war, but we get contemptuous treatment of working people who are just fighting for a decent pay increase, or indeed of people looking for our hospitals to be properly staffed and resourced? This Government signed up to these priorities of rearming Europe. Let us remember that the European Union is the biggest trading partner of the Israeli regime, which is committing genocide against the Palestinian people. It is arming that regime to the teeth, but this Government wants to involve us in the plans for more militarisation. Many of those countries are selling weapons to Israel to massacre Palestinians. There is even dual-use technology going from this country to the Israeli military while it is committing genocide. This Government wants to do more of that, but it is holding out on ordinary working people who are just looking for a pay increase that will ensure they are not losing income and working for less because of the cost-of-living crisis caused by the warmongering of the United States, Israel and many of the powers that want more money spent on weapons. The Government is going to do away with the triple lock and deal another blow to our neutrality in order to serve that agenda. Do its priorities not need to be re-evaluated?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_131">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_235">Thank you, Deputy. The Minister to respond.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_132" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_236">The Deputy raised a number of points. As I have said, I want to respect the confidentiality of the process under way at the Workplace Relations Commission. We want to have a credible and fair deal for workers, particularly prioritising the low paid. I am limited in what I can say, except to say that negotiations are ongoing. We had positive engagement yesterday through Kevin Foley, who chaired that process. We want to see a pay deal for workers. A lot of what the Deputy has said is a complete misrepresentation of the position. He knows clearly that we are absolutely independent in our foreign policy and our reforms of the triple lock. Like Deputy McDonald, Deputy Boyd Barrett wants to continue to hand a veto to Russia-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_133">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_237">No, he does not.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_134" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_238">-----China, Britain, the US and many others. Why he would not support a reform that involves this House deciding on the independent deployment-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ConorDMcGuinness" eId="spk_135">
          <from>Deputy Conor D. McGuinness<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_239">Because the Government cannot be trusted.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_136" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_240">-----of troops to continue and sustain our proud record of peacekeeping is extraordinary.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#PaulMcAuliffe" eId="spk_137">
          <from>Deputy Paul McAuliffe<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_241">They do not trust themselves.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_138" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_242">It is extraordinary.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#PaulMurphy" eId="spk_139">
          <from>Deputy Paul Murphy<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_243">It is not peacekeeping if it is not in the UN, is it?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_140">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_244">Deputy Murphy, please.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_141" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_245">He throws about the issue of NATO here and there.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#PaulMurphy" eId="spk_142">
          <from>Deputy Paul Murphy<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_246">He can call it peacekeeping, but it does not make it peacekeeping.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_143">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_247">Members, please.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_144" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_248">We have no intention of joining NATO. We have no intention of joining any military alliance. The Deputy knows as well as I do that the Constitution prohibits such an act. European Political Community meetings are important in the context of Ireland's role within the European Union. I know that like Sinn Féin, Deputy Boyd Barrett is Eurosceptic and would take a much different approach to Ireland's role in the European Union.</p>
          <p eId="para_249">That is not something the broader Irish public would support either-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_145">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_250">Go and check with the people in a referendum.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_146" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_251">-----in terms of the Deputy's position with the European Union. Ireland's defence spending is set out. We have moderately increased our defence spending in recent years, again supported by the work of the Commission on the Defence Forces in supporting expansion of equipment and a lot of respective improvement to pay and conditions for people who work across the Defence Forces. A lot of what the Deputy has said is just rhetoric and a complete misrepresentation of the Irish Government, which is well respected, by the way, in the European Union, led by the Minister, Deputy McEntee, the Taoiseach and others, in terms of what we have said about Gaza-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RuthCoppinger" eId="spk_147">
          <from>Deputy Ruth Coppinger<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_252">That is not complimentary.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_148" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_253">-----and the shocking atrocities there and elsewhere. We have been consistent. We have been recognised in the European Union and the UN for how we have spoken up on behalf of the people of Gaza and elsewhere. That will continue within the European Political Community and all other European Union engagements.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_149">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_254">Anybody who cares about our neutrality, opposes war and militarisation, and is concerned about the ongoing complicity of the European Union with the genocide being perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinians should be on the streets at 5 o'clock at The Spire, where we will be marching to the National Gallery, where, among others, the head of NATO will be. Which bit of what I have said is not true? Is it not true that the head of NATO is going to be there? It is not true that the European Union is the biggest trading partner of Israel that is committing a genocide? Is it not true that the policy of ReArm Europe is to double arms expenditure in Europe from €400 billion, which has already increased by multiples over recent years, up to €800 billion? That is not true, apparently, is it not?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ThomasByrne" eId="spk_150">
          <from>Deputy Thomas Byrne<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_255">That is NATO. It is not the EU.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_151">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_256">Is it not an attack on neutrality that we will be sent on military missions - our sons and daughters, potentially - which are not authorised by the United Nations?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_152">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_257">Thank you, Deputy. You time is up. The Minister will respond.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_153">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_258">By whom are they authorised - NATO or the European Union?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_154" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_259">It is complete and utter nonsense-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_155">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_260">It is all true.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_156" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_261">-----to talk about sending our sons and daughters away because of some decision by some other military alliance. It is a complete mistruth.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_157">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_262">Read the legislation.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_158" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_263">It is a complete and utter mistruth. Stop scaremongering.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#PaulMurphy" eId="spk_159">
          <from>Deputy Paul Murphy<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_264">Why are you scrapping the guardrails then?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_160" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_265">You can continue to engage in your street politics and your division, but you know it is not true. You know there is no mandate for it. You know there is no intention to do it. Stop misrepresenting the actual position of the Government to the people of Ireland.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_161">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_266">Then take your case to the people.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_162">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_267">What is the Minister talking to Mark Rutte about?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_163" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_268">There is a growing budget for defence spending by many European member states. Does the Deputy know why? It is because of Russia and because of the risk of what Russia is doing in Ukraine and the risk across the eastern area. Deputy Boyd Barrett did not mention Russia. He rarely mentions Russia in all his contributions.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_164">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_269">I do.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_165" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_270">The Deputy rarely mentions Russia, except he is willing to keep Russia's veto-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_166">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_271">Nobody is proposing an alliance with Russia. The Minister is proposing an alliance with NATO.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_167" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_272">-----when it comes Ireland's foreign policy and Ireland's position in the context of deciding our own affairs.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_168">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_273">If you are that sure, bring the case to the Irish people in a referendum.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_169" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_274">It is complete inconsistency and hypocrisy and a complete misrepresentation of the truth. Deputy Boyd Barrett knows our consistent position in all international affairs.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#PaulMurphy" eId="spk_170">
          <from>Deputy Paul Murphy<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_275">Put it to the people.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_171" as="#Minister_for_Public_Expenditure,_Infrastructure,_Public_Service_Reform_and_Digitalisation">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_276">The focus of our reform is on upholding our strong role in peacekeeping.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_172">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_277">Put the question to the people.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ConorDMcGuinness" eId="spk_173">
          <from>Deputy Conor D. McGuinness<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_278">Why are you scared of democracy?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ThomasByrne" eId="spk_174">
          <from>Deputy Thomas Byrne<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_279">Even Sinn Féin met NATO when they went to Kosovo.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_175">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_280">Bring your case to the people.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ThomasByrne" eId="spk_176">
          <from>Deputy Thomas Byrne<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_281">Your Sinn Féin colleagues met NATO in Kosovo.</p>
        </speech>
      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="orderofBusiness" eId="dbsect_10">
        <heading>An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_177">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_282">In accordance with Standing Order 35, I call on the Chief Whip, Deputy Mary Butler, to move the arrangements for this week's business.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryButler" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_the_Taoiseach" eId="spk_178">
          <from>Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Mary Butler)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_283">I move:</p>
          <p eId="para_284"> Tuesday's business shall be: </p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_285">- Motion re Sixteenth Report of the Standing Committee of Selection (without debate and any division claimed to be taken immediately) </p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_286">- Social Welfare Bill 2026 (Second Stage) (to adjourn at the end of the first speaking round; not to exceed 3 hours and 24 minutes) </p>
          <p eId="para_287"> Tuesday's private members' business shall be the Motion re Toll Charges and the Cost of Living, selected by Sinn Féin.</p>
          <p eId="para_288"> Wednesday's business shall be:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_289">- Social Welfare Bill 2026 (Second Stage, resumed) (to conclude at the end of the second speaking round, not to exceed 1 hour and 52 minutes; any division claimed shall be taken immediately)</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_290">- Short-Term Letting and Tourism Bill 2026 (Committee and remaining Stages) (to conclude within 4 hours)</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_291">- Motion re Proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the Protection of Young Persons (Employment in Food and Beverage Services Sector) Regulations 2026 (back from Committee) (any division claimed to be taken immediately) </p>
          <p eId="para_292"> Wednesday's private members' business shall be the Motion re Reversing Planned Increases to Public Transport Fares, selected by Social Democrats.</p>
          <p eId="para_293"> Thursday's business shall be:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_294">- Statements on Drug-Related Intimidation (not to exceed 2 hours and 25 minutes) </p>
          <p eId="para_295"> Thursday evening business shall be the Second Stage of the Non-Fatal Offences against the Person (Amendment) (Spiking) Bill 2023 [Seanad], sponsored by Deputy Barry Ward.</p>
          <p eId="para_296"> Proposed Arrangements for this week’s business:</p>
          <p eId="para_297"> In relation to Tuesday’s business, it is proposed that:</p>
          <p eId="para_298"> 1. notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_299">(a) the time allocated to Government business shall be extended in accordance with the arrangements for that business and the Dáil may sit later than 10.48 p.m.; and</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_300">(b) private members’ business shall be taken following Government Business with consequential effect on the commencement times for the items following in the ordinary routine of business;</p>
          <p eId="para_301"> 2. the proceedings on the Motion re Sixteenth Report of the Standing Committee of Selection shall be taken without debate and any division claimed thereon shall be taken immediately; and</p>
          <p eId="para_302"> 3. the proceedings on the Second Stage of the Social Welfare Bill 2026 shall be interrupted and stand adjourned at the end of the first speaking round, which shall not exceed 3 hours and 24 minutes, and the following arrangements shall apply:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_303">(a) the first-round speeches shall be in accordance with the table below (to be read across);</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_304">(b) where first-round speeches conclude before the 3 hours and 24 minutes have elapsed and no other member is offering, the debate shall stand adjourned; and</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_305">(c) members may share time.</p>
          <table>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_306">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_307">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_308">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_309">SD</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_310">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_311">SF</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_312">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_313">20</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_314">20</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_315">20</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_316">12</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_317">4</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_318">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_319">Lab</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_320">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_321">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_322">IPTG</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_323">Gov</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_324">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_325">20</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_326">12</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_327">4</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_328">20</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_329">12</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_330">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_331">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_332">ITG</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_333">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_334">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_335">OM</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_336">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_337">4</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_338">20</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_339">12</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_340">4</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_341">20</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_342">Total: 3 hours 24 mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_343">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_344">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_345">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_346">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_347">
									</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
          </table>
          <p eId="para_348"> In relation to Wednesday's business, it is proposed that:</p>
          <p eId="para_349"> 1. notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_350">(a) any motions to be taken without debate shall be taken on the conclusion of the Short-Term Letting and Tourism Letting Bill 2026; and</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_351">(b) the weekly division time shall be taken on the conclusion of proceedings on any motions without debate;</p>
          <p eId="para_352"> 2. the resumed proceedings on the Second Stage of the Social Welfare Bill 2026 shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at the end of the second speaking round, which shall not exceed 1 hour and 42 minutes, and the following arrangements shall apply:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_353">(a) the second-round speeches shall be in accordance with the table below (to be read across);</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_354">(b) on the conclusion of the second speaking round, or where speeches conclude before the 1 hour and 42 minutes have elapsed and no other member is offering, a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed 10 minutes, whereupon proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion;</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_355">(c) members may share time; and</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_356">(d) any division claimed thereon shall be taken immediately;</p>
          <table>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_357">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_358">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_359">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_360">SD</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_361">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_362">SF</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_363">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_364">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_365">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_366">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_367">6</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_368">2</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_369">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_370">Lab</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_371">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_372">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_373">IPTG</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_374">Gov</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_375">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_376">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_377">6</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_378">2</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_379">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_380">6</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_381">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_382">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_383">ITG</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_384">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_385">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_386">OM</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_387">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_388">2</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_389">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_390">6</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_391">2</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_392">10</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_393">Total: 1 hour 42 mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_394">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_395">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_396">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_397">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_398">
									</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
          </table>
          <p eId="para_399"> 3. the proceedings on Committee and Remaining Stages of the Short-Term Letting and Tourism Bill 2026 shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 4 hours by one question, which shall be put from the Chair, and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Enterprise, Tourism and Employment; and</p>
          <p eId="para_400"> 4. the proceedings on the Motion re Proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the Protection of Young Persons (Employment in Food and Beverage Services Sector) Regulations 2026 shall be taken without debate and any division claimed thereon shall be taken immediately.</p>
          <p eId="para_401"> In relation to Thursday's business, it is proposed that:</p>
          <p eId="para_402"> 1. notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, Thursday evening business pursuant to Standing Order 169 may be taken earlier than 8.24 p.m. with consequential effect on the time for the adjournment of the Dáil; and</p>
          <p eId="para_403"> 2. the Statements on Drug-Related Intimidation shall not exceed 2 hours and 25 minutes and the following arrangements shall apply:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_404">(a) the statements, not including the Ministerial response, shall be in accordance with the sequence contained in the table immediately below (to be read across);</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_405">(b) following the statements, a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a statement in reply which shall not exceed 10 minutes; and</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_406">(c) members may share time.</p>
          <table>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_407">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_408">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_409">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_410">SD</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_411">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_412">SF</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_413">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_414">25</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_415">15</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_416">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_417">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_418">3</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_419">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_420">Lab</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_421">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_422">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_423">IPTG</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_424">Gov</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_425">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_426">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_427">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_428">3</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_429">9</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_430">10</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_431">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_432">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_433">ITG</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_434">Gov</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_435">SF</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_436">OM</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_437">Mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_438">3</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_439">9</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_440">10</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_441">3</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_442">5</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_443">Total: 2 hours 15 mins</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_444">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_445">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_446">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_447">
									</p>
              </td>
              <td>
                <p eId="para_448">
									</p>
              </td>
            </tr>
          </table>
          <p eId="para_449">
					</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_179">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_450">Are the arrangements agreed to?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_180">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_451">Not agreed. The Government is on notice of a proposed strike action by public servants on Thursday. That is not reflected in the Dáil schedule. Of course, public sector workers might be forced for the second time onto the picket lines because of the Minister's dithering, delaying and failure to deliver a fair pay settlement thus far. To be clear, and to put the Government on notice, if there are picket lines and if public servants are on strike, we will not be crossing those picket lines and there will not, in fact, be any Dáil business done.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JenniferWhitmore" eId="spk_181">
          <from>Deputy Jennifer Whitmore<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_452">All across the world, communities are pushing back against power-hungry data centres. It was a major component in the mid-west elections. Norway is introducing a moratorium on data centres yet in Ireland, we are still being seen as a soft touch. Thousands of people were out protesting data centres in Dublin over the weekend. They are calling for a moratorium. We need an urgent debate in the Dáil. We need a moratorium on data centres.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#EoghanKenny" eId="spk_182">
          <from>Deputy Eoghan Kenny<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:35:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_453">I am not sure if it is pure ignorance or a lack of understanding. A senior clinician within Cork University Hospital, CUH, has said that people will die if they are not staffed appropriately. I am requesting that the Government, the Minister for Health and the Taoiseach facilitate statements and questions in the Dáil on the deeply disturbing revelations concerning CUH. The audio recording completely contradicts the record of this House last week given by the Taoiseach.</p>
          <p eId="para_454">We must have these statements and questions.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_183">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_455">I call Deputy Boyd Barrett.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#EoghanKenny" eId="spk_184">
          <from>Deputy Eoghan Kenny<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_456">The people of the southern region deserve much better.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_185">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_457">Deputy Kenny, your time is up.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardBoydBarrett" eId="spk_186">
          <from>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_458">It is totally inappropriate that while strike action by public sector workers on Thursday is still scheduled, we have a schedule for the Dáil to sit. Until this Government gives workers a decent pay increase, which they have demanded, and workers accept that, there should be no question that it should be scheduling Dáil business on the day they are being forced to take strike action because of their shoddy treatment by this Government.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MichaelCollins2016" eId="spk_187">
          <from>Deputy Michael Collins<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_459">Absolutely.</p>
          <p eId="para_460"> In relation to short-term lets, it was agreed - and we were long enough looking for it - that there would be full committee pre-legislative scrutiny. We now hear the Bill is going to be railroaded through the Dáil tomorrow. It is totally and utterly unacceptable for the people of rural Ireland who are fighting hard for the little bit of business they have while the Government railroads this through to put them out of business in relation to the planning aspect of short-term lets.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_188">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_461">I thank the Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MichaelCollins2016" eId="spk_189">
          <from>Deputy Michael Collins<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_462">I ask for proper pre-legislative scrutiny.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_190">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_463">I thank the Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MichaelCollins2016" eId="spk_191">
          <from>Deputy Michael Collins<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_464">This is hugely important. It was promised to us and needs to be delivered.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryButler" eId="spk_192" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_the_Taoiseach">
          <from>Deputy Mary Butler<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_465">I note all of the comments from the Opposition Whips but in respect to this week's business, and without prejudice the ongoing negotiations, I propose that the Order of Business agrees the three-day schedule outlined to the committee last Thursday. If necessary, I will return to the House tomorrow with a further business proposal in relation to Thursday’s sitting and I will continue to engage with the Opposition Whips and the Business Committee, as required, in regard to the sitting on Thursday and whether it will happen. The Order of Business stands.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_193">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:40:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_466">Are the proposed arrangements of this week’s business agreed to? They are not agreed.</p>
        </speech>
        <debateSection name="division" eId="dbsect_11">
          <summary eId="sum_6">Question put: "That the proposed arrangements for this week's business be agreed to."</summary>
          <summary title="division" eId="sum_7">The Dáil divided: Tá, <quantity refersTo="#ta" normalized="80" eId="qty_1">80</quantity>; Níl, <quantity refersTo="#nil" normalized="68" eId="qty_2">68</quantity>; Staon, <quantity refersTo="#staon" normalized="0" eId="qty_3">0</quantity>.</summary>
          <debateSection name="ta" eId="dbsect_12">
            <p eId="para_467">Tá</p>
            <p eId="para_468">
              <person refersTo="#WilliamAird">Aird, William.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_469">
              <person refersTo="#CatherineArdagh">Ardagh, Catherine.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_470">
              <person refersTo="#GraceBoland">Boland, Grace.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_471">
              <person refersTo="#BrianBrennan">Brennan, Brian.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_472">
              <person refersTo="#ShayBrennan">Brennan, Shay.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_473">
              <person refersTo="#ColmBrophy">Brophy, Colm.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_474">
              <person refersTo="#JamesBrowne">Browne, James.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_475">
              <person refersTo="#ColmBurke">Burke, Colm.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_476">
              <person refersTo="#PeterBurke">Burke, Peter.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_477">
              <person refersTo="#MaryButler">Butler, Mary.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_478">
              <person refersTo="#JerryButtimer">Buttimer, Jerry.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_479">
              <person refersTo="#MalcolmByrne">Byrne, Malcolm.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_480">
              <person refersTo="#ThomasByrne">Byrne, Thomas.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_481">
              <person refersTo="#MichaelCahill">Cahill, Michael.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_482">
              <person refersTo="#CatherineCallaghan">Callaghan, Catherine.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_483">
              <person refersTo="#DaraCalleary">Calleary, Dara.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_484">
              <person refersTo="#SeanCanney">Canney, Seán.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_485">
              <person refersTo="#MichealCarrigy">Carrigy, Micheál.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_486">
              <person refersTo="#JenniferCarrollMacNeill">Carroll MacNeill, Jennifer.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_487">
              <person refersTo="#JackChambers">Chambers, Jack.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_488">
              <person refersTo="#PeterChapCleere">Cleere, Peter 'Chap'.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_489">
              <person refersTo="#JohnClendennen">Clendennen, John.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_490">
              <person refersTo="#NiallCollins">Collins, Niall.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_491">
              <person refersTo="#JohnConnolly">Connolly, John.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_492">
              <person refersTo="#JoeCooney">Cooney, Joe.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_493">
              <person refersTo="#CathalCrowe">Crowe, Cathal.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_494">
              <person refersTo="#JohnCummins">Cummins, John.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_495">
              <person refersTo="#EmerCurrie">Currie, Emer.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_496">
              <person refersTo="#MartinDaly">Daly, Martin.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_497">
              <person refersTo="#AislingDempsey">Dempsey, Aisling.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_498">
              <person refersTo="#AlanDillon">Dillon, Alan.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_499">
              <person refersTo="#AlbertDolan">Dolan, Albert.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_500">
              <person refersTo="#FrankFeighan">Feighan, Frankie.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_501">
              <person refersTo="#SeanFleming">Fleming, Sean.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_502">
              <person refersTo="#NormaFoley">Foley, Norma.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_503">
              <person refersTo="#PatTheCopeGallagher">Gallagher, Pat the Cope.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_504">
              <person refersTo="#JamesGeogheganFG">Geoghegan, James.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_505">
              <person refersTo="#NoelGrealishPD">Grealish, Noel.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_506">
              <person refersTo="#MarianHarkinIND">Harkin, Marian.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_507">
              <person refersTo="#BarryHeneghan">Heneghan, Barry.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_508">
              <person refersTo="#KeiraKeogh">Keogh, Keira.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_509">
              <person refersTo="#SeanKyne">Kyne, Seán.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_510">
              <person refersTo="#JohnLahart">Lahart, John.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_511">
              <person refersTo="#MichaelLowry">Lowry, Michael.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_512">
              <person refersTo="#DavidMaxwell">Maxwell, David.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_513">
              <person refersTo="#PaulMcAuliffe">McAuliffe, Paul.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_514">
              <person refersTo="#NoelMcCarthy">McCarthy, Noel.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_515">
              <person refersTo="#CharlieMcConalogue">McConalogue, Charlie.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_516">
              <person refersTo="#TonyMcCormack">McCormack, Tony.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_517">
              <person refersTo="#HelenMcEntee">McEntee, Helen.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_518">
              <person refersTo="#SeamusMcGrath">McGrath, Séamus.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_519">
              <person refersTo="#ErinMcGreehan">McGreehan, Erin.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_520">
              <person refersTo="#JohnMcGuinness">McGuinness, John.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_521">
              <person refersTo="#AindriasMoynihan">Moynihan, Aindrias.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_522">
              <person refersTo="#ShaneMoynihan">Moynihan, Shane.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_523">
              <person refersTo="#JenniferMurnaneOConnor">Murnane O'Connor, Jennifer.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_524">
              <person refersTo="#MichaelMurphy">Murphy, Michael.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_525">
              <person refersTo="#HildegardeNaughton">Naughton, Hildegarde.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_526">
              <person refersTo="#JoeNeville">Neville, Joe.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_527">
              <person refersTo="#DarraghOBrien">O'Brien, Darragh.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_528">
              <person refersTo="#JimOCallaghan">O'Callaghan, Jim.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_529">
              <person refersTo="#MaeveOConnell">O'Connell, Maeve.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_530">
              <person refersTo="#JamesOConnor">O'Connor, James.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_531">
              <person refersTo="#WillieODea">O'Dea, Willie.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_532">
              <person refersTo="#KieranODonnell">O'Donnell, Kieran.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_533">
              <person refersTo="#RyanOMeara">O'Meara, Ryan.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_534">
              <person refersTo="#JohnPaulOShea">O'Shea, John Paul.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_535">
              <person refersTo="#ChristopherOsullivan">O'Sullivan, Christopher.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_536">
              <person refersTo="#PadraigOSullivan">O'Sullivan, Pádraig.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_537">
              <person refersTo="#NaoiseOCearuil">Ó Cearúil, Naoise.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_538">
              <person refersTo="#SeanOFearghaillFF">Ó Fearghaíl, Seán.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_539">
              <person refersTo="#NaoiseOMuiri">Ó Muirí, Naoise.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_540">
              <person refersTo="#NealeRichmond">Richmond, Neale.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_541">
              <person refersTo="#PeterRoche">Roche, Peter.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_542">
              <person refersTo="#EamonScanlon">Scanlon, Eamon.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_543">
              <person refersTo="#BrendanSmith">Smith, Brendan.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_544">
              <person refersTo="#NiamhSmyth">Smyth, Niamh.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_545">
              <person refersTo="#EdwardTimmins">Timmins, Edward.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_546">
              <person refersTo="#GillianToole">Toole, Gillian.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_547">
              <person refersTo="#RobertTroy">Troy, Robert.</person>
            </p>
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          <debateSection name="nil" eId="dbsect_13">
            <p eId="para_548">Níl</p>
            <p eId="para_549">
              <person refersTo="#IvanaBacik">Bacik, Ivana.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_550">
              <person refersTo="#CathyBennett">Bennett, Cathy.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_551">
              <person refersTo="#RichardBoydBarrett">Boyd Barrett, Richard.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_552">
              <person refersTo="#JohnBrady">Brady, John.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_553">
              <person refersTo="#PatBuckley">Buckley, Pat.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_554">
              <person refersTo="#JoannaByrne">Byrne, Joanna.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_555">
              <person refersTo="#SorcaClarke">Clarke, Sorca.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_556">
              <person refersTo="#MichaelCollins2016">Collins, Michael.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_557">
              <person refersTo="#RoseConwayWalsh">Conway-Walsh, Rose.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_558">
              <person refersTo="#RuthCoppinger">Coppinger, Ruth.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_559">
              <person refersTo="#SeanCroweSF">Crowe, Seán.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_560">
              <person refersTo="#DavidCullinane">Cullinane, David.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_561">
              <person refersTo="#JenCummins">Cummins, Jen.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_562">
              <person refersTo="#PaDaly">Daly, Pa.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_563">
              <person refersTo="#MaireDevine">Devine, Máire.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_564">
              <person refersTo="#PearseDoherty">Doherty, Pearse.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_565">
              <person refersTo="#PaulDonnelly">Donnelly, Paul.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_566">
              <person refersTo="#DessieEllis">Ellis, Dessie.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_567">
              <person refersTo="#DanielEnnis">Ennis, Daniel.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_568">
              <person refersTo="#AidanFarrelly">Farrelly, Aidan.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_569">
              <person refersTo="#MaireadFarrell">Farrell, Mairéad.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_570">
              <person refersTo="#GaryGannon">Gannon, Gary.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_571">
              <person refersTo="#SineadGibney">Gibney, Sinéad.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_572">
              <person refersTo="#PaulNicholasGogartyGP">Gogarty, Paul Nicholas.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_573">
              <person refersTo="#AnnGraves">Graves, Ann.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_574">
              <person refersTo="#JohnnyGuirke">Guirke, Johnny.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_575">
              <person refersTo="#EoinHayes">Hayes, Eoin.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_576">
              <person refersTo="#DannyHealyRae">Healy-Rae, Danny.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_577">
              <person refersTo="#SeamusHealy">Healy, Seamus.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_578">
              <person refersTo="#RoryHearne">Hearne, Rory.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_579">
              <person refersTo="#EoghanKenny">Kenny, Eoghan.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_580">
              <person refersTo="#MartinKenny">Kenny, Martin.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_581">
              <person refersTo="#ClaireKerrane">Kerrane, Claire.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_582">
              <person refersTo="#PaulLawless">Lawless, Paul.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_583">
              <person refersTo="#GeorgeLawlor">Lawlor, George.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_584">
              <person refersTo="#PadraigMacLochlainn">Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_585">
              <person refersTo="#MaryLouMcDonald">McDonald, Mary Lou.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_586">
              <person refersTo="#DonnaMcGettigan">McGettigan, Donna.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_587">
              <person refersTo="#MattieMcGrath">McGrath, Mattie.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_588">
              <person refersTo="#ConorDMcGuinness">McGuinness, Conor D.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_589">
              <person refersTo="#PaulMurphy">Murphy, Paul.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_590">
              <person refersTo="#JohnnyMythen">Mythen, Johnny.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_591">
              <person refersTo="#GeraldNash">Nash, Ged.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_592">
              <person refersTo="#NatashaNewsomeDrennan">Newsome Drennan, Natasha.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_593">
              <person refersTo="#ShonaghNiRaghallaigh">Ní Raghallaigh, Shónagh.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_594">
              <person refersTo="#CarolNolan">Nolan, Carol.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_595">
              <person refersTo="#CianOCallaghan">O'Callaghan, Cian.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_596">
              <person refersTo="#RichardODonoghue">O'Donoghue, Richard.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_597">
              <person refersTo="#RobertODonoghue">O'Donoghue, Robert.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_598">
              <person refersTo="#RodericOGorman">O'Gorman, Roderic.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_599">
              <person refersTo="#LouisOHara">O'Hara, Louis.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_600">
              <person refersTo="#LouiseOReilly">O'Reilly, Louise.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_601">
              <person refersTo="#DarrenORourke">O'Rourke, Darren.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_602">
              <person refersTo="#EoinOBroin">Ó Broin, Eoin.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_603">
              <person refersTo="#DonnchadhOLaoghaire">Ó Laoghaire, Donnchadh.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_604">
              <person refersTo="#RuairiOmurchu">Ó Murchú, Ruairí.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_605">
              <person refersTo="#FionntanOSuilleabhain">Ó Súilleabháin, Fionntán.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_606">
              <person refersTo="#LiamQuaide">Quaide, Liam.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_607">
              <person refersTo="#MauriceQuinlivan">Quinlivan, Maurice.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_608">
              <person refersTo="#PadraigRice">Rice, Pádraig.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_609">
              <person refersTo="#ConorSheehan">Sheehan, Conor.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_610">
              <person refersTo="#DuncanSmith">Smith, Duncan.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_611">
              <person refersTo="#BrianStanley">Stanley, Brian.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_612">
              <person refersTo="#PeadarToibin">Tóibín, Peadar.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_613">
              <person refersTo="#MarkWall">Wall, Mark.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_614">
              <person refersTo="#CharlesWard">Ward, Charles.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_615">
              <person refersTo="#MarkWard">Ward, Mark.</person>
            </p>
            <p eId="para_616">
              <person refersTo="#JenniferWhitmore">Whitmore, Jennifer.</person>
            </p>
          </debateSection>
          <debateSection name="staon" eId="dbsect_14">
            <p eId="para_617">Staon</p>
            <p eId="para_618">
              <person refersTo="#"/>
            </p>
          </debateSection>
          <summary title="tellers" eId="sum_8">Tellers: Tá, Deputies Mary Butler and Emer Currie; Níl, Deputies Pádraig Mac Lochlainn and Richard Boyd Barrett.</summary>
          <summary title="decision" refersTo="#carried" eId="sum_9">Question declared carried.</summary>
        </debateSection>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_194">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_619">I understand that in the Gallery we have Ms Shauna Browne, a champion professional boxer from County Tipperary. We have a few in here from Tipperary. She is most welcome. She is a guest of Deputy Mattie McGrath. We wish her all the best.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_195">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_620">Given your last words, a Cheann Comhairle, I feel moved to say the following for the Dáil record: Up Tipp, the premier county. My mother would be proud and happy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MattieMcGrath" eId="spk_196">
          <from>Deputy Mattie McGrath<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_621">I appreciate that.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_197">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_622">Deputy McGrath is welcome any time.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_198">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_623">The clock is running.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryLouMcDonald" eId="spk_199">
          <from>Deputy Mary Lou McDonald<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_624">The LucidTalk polling over the weekend again reflects opinion north of the Border and the fact that not alone is the conversation around Irish reunification live but momentum is building towards that and therefore preparation for constitutional change in a referendum is absolutely necessary. I welcome the Taoiseach's initiative and the initiative by the Fine Gael Party at its Ard-Fheis over the weekend. Will the Government's actions now include the production of a Green Paper and some form of assembly, whether it is a constitutional forum or a citizens' forum? I am less worried about what it is called but I am very concerned that we would now see tangible actions taking place to engage people on this crucial question.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_200">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_625">I thank Deputy McDonald. Her party and other parties of Government have all reflected positive proposals in this area. What the Taoiseach has said is that there are three priority areas: first, how we can continue to develop and deliver on the shared island initiative, independent of any discussion of constitutional frameworks; second, how we can seek to begin discussions on reform of strand one of the Good Friday Agreement; and third, how we can develop and establish a new initiative to develop the evidence base for a debate on future constitutional frameworks on which we want to get broader engagement. All of those respective initiatives reflect the broader public opinion which is evolving across the island.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#AidanFarrelly" eId="spk_201">
          <from>Deputy Aidan Farrelly<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T14:55:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_626">The Government is ignoring the cost-of-living crisis that is crippling families. It is ignoring the climate crisis that is crippling communities. It is ignoring its own just transition commission by deciding to increase the cost of using public transport from January 2027. It beggars belief that this Government is choosing to negatively impact our pockets, thus sending people back to their cars. More cars mean more congestion. The Social Democrats are using its Private Members' business time this week to call on the Government to reduce and reverse the public transport fare increases. Will the Minister use his position as Minister for public expenditure to do a U-turn on this political decision and reverse the public transport fare hikes?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_202">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_627">There has to be sustainability in terms of our public transport system. The level of subvention from central government to the National Transport Authority to support the public transport network is continuing to increase and will again in 2027. We want to significantly expand services. That is striking the right balance between continued expansion of the subvention from the Government but also having sustainability across our fare system. We have had a series of years of reductions and retention at a particular rate. In most European economies, there are some increases of transport fares. That is to ensure that we protect services but also expand them. In the communities I represent, they are as focused on a big expansion of transport services as well. We have to ensure that is balanced, both with the fares and the subvention from the State.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_203">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_628">Speaking of boxing, we saw the Tánaiste pushing down this weekend with comments about jobseekers and more punching down, unfortunately, by the State of carers this week. I am grateful to the Every Child Matters campaign and Labour Party's Councillor Ali Field for bringing to my attention this email that was sent by Intreo to recipients of carer's allowance this week. It said:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_629">Dear customer, as a carer's allowance recipient, we recognise that your caring responsibilities are your priority. However, if you would like to learn more about a flexible, short-term employment opportunity that may fit around your circumstances the following role may be of interest.</p>
          <p eId="para_630"> It is seeking to recruit for a specific role, and it is causing enormous distress and concern to carers. It sounds as if parents caring around the clock are assumed to have spare hours to fill. As Ali said, it is an absolute disgrace. They really have no idea what being a carer entails. Carers are exhausted from filling gaps in State services.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_204">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_631">A question, Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_205">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_632">When will the Government stop treating carers as a workforce to be mobilised and start treating them as people who deserve to be supported? They are facing the sharp cut off the cruel means test and-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_206">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_633">Time is up, Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#IvanaBacik" eId="spk_207">
          <from>Deputy Ivana Bacik<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_634">-----this really adds insult to injury.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_208">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_635">If we look at the record of the previous two budgets in terms of the income disregard, we have made significant progress for carers in line with what we set out in the programme for Government, and rightly so. We know the huge contribution that carers make in communities across the country. I am not aware of the specific example the Deputy has given. The Department of Social Protection has always worked in a very sensitive way with different recipients of different supports. We acknowledge the huge contributions carers make to their families and their loved ones. That will continue to be a priority for us through the next series of budgets.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RuthCoppinger" eId="spk_209">
          <from>Deputy Ruth Coppinger<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_636">A patient was admitted to Connolly Hospital last Wednesday with a significant brain bleed. The consultant recommended an MRI to figure out what was wrong but the MRI machine has been broken for a week. The man with very complex and other medical conditions as well has not been able to get an MRI in Connolly Hospital in Blanchardstown. They were not able to outsource his care to get the MRI needed. How can a hospital with a stroke unit and other medical needs have a broken MRI machine for nearly a week? It is not the first time I have raised Connolly Hospital. I raised the CT scanner, which was broken. Now, we have an MRI machine. This is causing huge stress for the relative who contacted me, and who I have just spoken to, but also to staff who do not know what to do with the backup of patients. Lives are being endangered by this. It is the Minister's local hospital. He really ought to be ashamed of himself that this is continuing to happen in a major Dublin hospital in his own back yard.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JenniferCarrollMacNeill" as="#Minister_for_Health" eId="spk_210">
          <from>Minister for Health (Deputy Jennifer Carroll MacNeill)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_637">I thank the Deputy for raising that. I will find out what is happening with the MRI machine and get back to the Deputy directly.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardODonoghue" eId="spk_211">
          <from>Deputy Richard O'Donoghue<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:00:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_638">The Government is going to stop the short-term lets Bill going to committee for an open discussion on it. That is what it thinks of the people in the hospitality sector providing short-term lets. The housing Minister has not released the up-to-date guidelines on planning permissions. Our local authorities are waiting for them, the people who are building their own houses are waiting for them and the people who want to put a roof over their children's heads are waiting for them but the Government has not done that either. However, it has said it is not even going to discuss the short-term lets Bill, that it is going to guillotine it and that it is going to be put to a vote. The Government has no alternatives to even giving planning permission to people who want to build their own houses. They are not depending on the State. The Government cannot even come up with the guidelines for that in a timely fashion.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_212">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_639">The Chief Whip has informed me there will be four hours of debate tomorrow around the short-term lettings legislation.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RichardODonoghue" eId="spk_213">
          <from>Deputy Richard O'Donoghue<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_640">It is not going to committee.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_214">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_641">There will be four hours of debate for Committee and Remaining Stages here. The Deputy will have plenty of time to reflect his position and the Minister will respond to any queries he has.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#NaoiseOCearuil" eId="spk_215">
          <from>Deputy Naoise Ó Cearúil<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_642">Two weeks ago, the Minister and I attended the commencement of the works on DART+ West, which is extremely welcome news. The medium to long-term solution is DART+ West and South West, in particular for commuters in Kildare. However, in the short term a lot of commuters in Maynooth, Leixlip, Hazelhatch and Celbridge are complaining of overcrowding on trains, in particular in the mornings and evenings. I ask that additional carriages are afforded onto the train lines, including the Maynooth line, which goes on to Sligo, and the Hazelhatch and Celbridge lines to ensure overcrowding does not continue. DART+ will help in the medium to long term but we need immediate solutions.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_216">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_643">I thank the Deputy. It it is great that both of our constituencies will see the real benefit of this transformative public transport project. It will make a huge difference in terms of frequency, capacity and the modernisation of the line, which has been promised for 20 years. The Government is getting it started and will get it done. I will reflect that issue, which I know is a pressing issue in the Deputy's constituency as well as mine. There are particular points in the day where there are capacity issues and constraints where there is a strong uptake in public transport. I will reflect that to the Minister, Deputy O'Brien.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#GraceBoland" eId="spk_217">
          <from>Deputy Grace Boland<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_644">I very much welcome the enhanced grants for solar panels and battery storage. There has been strong interest from households in my area of Dublin Fingal. However, many older homes require electrical upgrades before they can be installed safely. Issues include undersized electrical meter tails and outdated wiring, the cost of which can be significant. As a result, people who qualify for the grants cannot afford to upgrade the electricity requirements in order to install solar batteries and solar panels. Will the Government consider a targeted grant to support a essential electrical works where they are required for solar or battery installation? I have written to the Minister on this but I would appreciate the support of the Minister, Deputy Chambers.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_218">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_645">I thank Deputy Boland. I appreciate it may be an issue for many homes which were built a number of decades ago and where there is a specific requirement for electrical upgrades. In all grants we have, whether with respect to SEAI for solar or other matters, there is a need to prioritise and target particular areas. We need to be careful. If we were to go down a new avenue, as the Deputy suggested - there is a good rationale behind why she would suggest such a change - ultimately we have to consider whether that has an impact on core grant support in existing schemes through the SEAI. We have had significant expansion by the Minister, Deputy O'Brien, to try to have improved absorption of that particular grant support. We need to be careful that measures are targeted at the particular area we want to address, that is, the direct uptake of solar. If we get into other areas of intervention, that could have an impact on our support for grants.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#ConorDMcGuinness" eId="spk_219">
          <from>Deputy Conor D. McGuinness<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_646">I have been contacted by families across Waterford, from Tallow to the Comeraghs, about the lack of transport for those attending adult day services. Many people who availed of school transport when attending St. John's Special School in Dungarvan have been left without any transport as they transition to adult day services. Some parents are paying privately hand over fist for inappropriate transport to get their children to adult day services and others are considering giving up their employment. I raised this matter with the Department of Health and HSE. They have advised me, in response to a parliamentary question, that no new funding has been provided to the HSE for the running costs of providing transport, including drivers for individuals to and from day services. Will the Minister for public expenditure work to address that shortfall?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_220">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_647">I thank Deputy McGuinness. I regret that people have not seen their service continue as he has described. I will reflect that to the HSE in respect of the particular transport service. I do not have the details before me. The HSE is well funded, as I said in an earlier contribution. It is important that specific health regions plan services where they know there is a demand in any given year. I will reflect that and ask the HSE to respond to the Deputy comprehensively.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#BrianBrennan" eId="spk_221">
          <from>Deputy Brian Brennan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:05:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_648">I again want to speak about dereliction.</p>
          <p eId="para_649">I welcome the Government's many initiatives on this subject, especially in relation to the collection of derelict property tax by Revenue. However, this can only happen if properties are registered. Take Arklow for example. It is a town where billions of euro of investment in industry is due over the coming years but the residents and businesses are totally frustrated by the lack of action on dereliction on its main streets.</p>
          <p eId="para_650"> On 8 July, there were only two properties listed in Arklow and only four properties listed in the whole of County Wicklow. I am calling on the Government to ensure action is taken by the county councils on dereliction, as this is a scourge and cancer on the social fabric of so many towns and villages throughout Ireland.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_222">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_651">I thank Deputy Brennan. I share the goal of ending dereliction in terms of the wider policy objective of Government, and a new derelict property tax will make a real impact on this. It is legislated for in the Finance (No. 2) Bill 2026. The aim is absolutely focused on regeneration, not on revenue, and success will be measured by properties restored and homes created, not tax collected. It replaces the local authority derelict sites levy, which we know was not working properly across the country, at the same 7% rate with Revenue now administering the charge for the first time. It will make a real impact on delivering across our shared objective of reducing a lot of the dereliction we see in too many towns and villages across the country.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MalcolmByrne" eId="spk_223">
          <from>Deputy Malcolm Byrne<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_652">I want to raise the case of Dealz stores nationwide. As the Minister may be aware, its UK parent company, Poundland, has gone into administration. This is causing a lot of concern for the 70 Dealz stores in Ireland. There are about 3,000 employees who are impacted. The Dealz stores in Ireland, by all accounts, seem to be viable. My local Dealz store in Gorey has 17 people employed. I spoke at the weekend with Grace and Pippi, who are there. The Minister will understand the lack of certainty in the run-up to Christmas. Can the Minister assure us that the Government will engage fully and will try to provide any support to anyone who may be interested in buying the Irish stores?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_224">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_653">I thank Deputy Byrne. I understand that Poundland has filed notice of its intention to appoint an administrator to the company in the UK but I can confirm the Minister for enterprise has not received a notification of collective redundancies from Poundland or Dealz in Ireland. As per the legislation, if an employer does become insolvent, the State ensures there are strong protections in place for affected workers. I appreciate coming up to Christmas is a particularly uncertain time for all involved. I do not want to speculate on media reports given the evolving position but I wish to set out the factual position relating to the Minister for enterprise at this point.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RoseConwayWalsh" eId="spk_225">
          <from>Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_654">Too many households in Mayo and across the State are living on a week-to-week basis, crippled by the relentless cost-of-living crisis. As we head into Christmas and into winter, families are stretched to breaking point, juggling soaring grocery bills with energy and fuel costs, childcare, tolls, insurance, and I could go on and on. Budget 2027 supports barely scratch the surface. Sinn Féin proposed a €500 everyday essentials card to help households put food on the table and ease the pressure of the frightening grocery costs. That was costed at €500 million in our alternative budget. I am asking the Minister whether the Government will reconsider this proposal and support 1 million struggling households before the winter hardship deepens even further. People cannot afford to live.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_226">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_655">We absolutely recognise the serious cost-of-living pressures facing many families. That is why we have had targeted supports through the social protection system with a €2 billion allocation there. Specific changes have been made to the taxation of energy around home heating oil and around the continued reduction of excise across fuel, and also other supports related to fuel allowance. We have made specific interventions and targeted many working families.</p>
          <p eId="para_656"> On what Sinn Féin has come up with, is that where it is when it comes to policy development - a card for everybody - as if that is going to resolve the issues relating to the cost of living? To say that would be administered within the next number of weeks is not being honest with people. We have continued the Christmas bonus and a significant social protection package that is targeted at low-income families, and the changes we have made to taxation are progressive as well.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RoseConwayWalsh" eId="spk_227">
          <from>Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_657">You think people have enough.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#RodericOGorman" eId="spk_228">
          <from>Deputy Roderic O'Gorman<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:10:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_658">A damning new report on greyhound racing in Ireland shows that this industry is based around the premature death of thousands of dogs.</p>
          <p eId="para_659">The report does not come from an animal welfare NGO or an Opposition party; it comes from the Parliamentary Budget Office. Greyhounds should live for ten to 15 years but the report shows that 10,000 have died in Ireland before their sixth birthday and 20,000 are exported out of the jurisdiction, where we have no control over their welfare standards. For how long will the Government continue to allow this carnage? Is the Minister satisfied with €20 million of taxpayers' money being spent to prop up an industry that is based upon the premature death of thousands of dogs?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_229">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_660">I acknowledge the report to which the Deputy referred. For the Minister, Deputy Heydon, animal welfare remains an absolute priority for the sector. It absolutely is a focus for him and for the Department of agriculture. The wider fund that is there is associated with the need to support the economic and geographic importance of greyhound racing in certain communities in Ireland. There has been a real focus in the Department on animal welfare and it is a specific focus of the Minister in the context of the greyhound fund. He will be able to set out further details and information in that regard.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#CathalCrowe" eId="spk_230">
          <from>Deputy Cathal Crowe<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_661">My question is for the Minister for Health. There are concerns regarding the planned hospital development at Raheen in Limerick. In March this year, the Minister announced that the HSE had secured a 44-acre site in Raheen to progress option B of the HIQA recommendations and expand University Hospital Limerick, UHL, to a two-site hospital campus. However, the recently published terms of reference for the mid-west health planning board make no reference whatsoever to a new acute hospital or additional inpatient beds. Instead, they refer to the future development of the site, including the relocation of outpatient services in the first instance. Patients groups such as Friends of Ennis Hospital, chaired by Ms Angela Coll, are understandably questioning whether the original ambition for the site will be realised. I am sure the Minister will agree that people in Clare and the wider mid-west region have endured years of overcrowding at UHL and cannot put up with it any longer. The language is really important. Are we going to get a new acute hospital or is this some in-between solution? Will she clarify what the Government intends to be done with the site?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JenniferCarrollMacNeill" eId="spk_231" as="#Minister_for_Health">
          <from>Deputy Jennifer Carroll MacNeill<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_662">The Government set out the greatest ambition in embracing options A, B and C and purchasing a very significant site, which is slightly larger than the Dooradoyle site, for the development of extremely important new healthcare facilities for the region. What is particularly important for the good people of County Clare, whom the Deputy represents so well in this House, is that it is not only about a hospital in Limerick but also about all the services right across Clare, including the community hospital in Ennistymon and the excellent hospital in Ennis.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#CathalCrowe" eId="spk_232">
          <from>Deputy Cathal Crowe<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_663">Is the plan still to build a new acute hospital?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JenniferCarrollMacNeill" eId="spk_233" as="#Minister_for_Health">
          <from>Deputy Jennifer Carroll MacNeill<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_664">The development board has been tasked with delivering all of those things rather than having a singular focus on Limerick. We have an ambitious plan for the region, which very specifically includes the development of an additional hospital. However, I do not want it to be limited to that. Having the dialogue exclusively about Limerick is unhelpful to the excellent people of Clare and Tipperary, who also need to have all of their services lifted.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#WillieODea" eId="spk_234">
          <from>Deputy Willie O'Dea<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_665">Seven weeks have elapsed since I last raised in here the CCTV system for Limerick city and county. During that seven-week period, hardly a day has passed when I have not been involved in imploring, pleading with and begging Ministers to bring the matter to a resolution and put a sustainable system in place. It is extremely disappointing that nothing has happened so far. I cannot overemphasise the catastrophic consequences for crime detection and prevention in Limerick if the system ceases to exist. Given that public safety is the first responsibility of any government, will this matter be resolved and, if so, when? The deadline is upon us. The people who operate the cameras have been given their notice and the system is about to come to an end.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_235">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:15:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_666">I appreciate that the Deputy raised this with me a number of weeks ago. My office has been engaging directly with both the Departments of housing and justice and their Ministers to bring a positive resolution to this matter. I understand the importance of this system, as the Deputy properly and comprehensively described, for crime prevention and detection. We need to bring about a positive resolution that gives certainty to its future and ensures it is protected. We are working on that and we hope to bring it to a conclusion shortly.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#SineadGibney" eId="spk_236">
          <from>Deputy Sinéad Gibney<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_667">In last weeks midterms AI data centres proved to be a potent political and electoral force. Similarly, people took to the streets this last weekend, including myself, to ask for moratorium. I hosted a briefing last week on a separate but connected issue relating to a specific data centre in Ireland. This was based on a report from Ekô on the Almunasseq app, the data for which is hosted here in Irish data centres. This is the system of permissions that is used to restrict the movements of Palestinian people, to decide when they can go to the doctor, when they can visit their families, and when they can go to work. An independent review found that it has incredibly invasive permissions that are tantamount to full surveillance where they track users around the clock even when the GPS is off and where they can silently copy their files. This is not possible without the companies which provide it, in this case Microsoft and the data centres that host the data, which are here in Ireland. We have duties under GDPR-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_237">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_668">A question, Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#SineadGibney" eId="spk_238">
          <from>Deputy Sinéad Gibney<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_669">-----and under our signatory to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. Is the Department of enterprise or the Data Protection Commission going to act on this? Will the Minister's Government act to investigate the enabling of the crime of apartheid on Irish soil as a matter of urgency and hold these tech companies to account?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_239">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_670">As the Deputy will know, the Data Protection Commission is totally independent of Government-----</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#SineadGibney" eId="spk_240">
          <from>Deputy Sinéad Gibney<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_671">The Department of enterprise is not.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_241">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_672">Deputy.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#JackChambers" eId="spk_242">
          <from>Deputy Jack Chambers<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_673">-----and it is a matter for it to investigate any matter that the Deputy wishes to report to it.</p>
        </speech>
      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_15">
        <heading>Tender To Payment (Public Spending Transparency) Bill 2026: First Stage<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <speech by="#AlbertDolan" eId="spk_243">
          <from>Deputy Albert Dolan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:20:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_674">I move:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_675">That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to provide for the transparency of public expenditure; to require that public spending be capable of being traced from tender, through contract award, contract, purchase order and invoice, to final payment; to establish a Public Spending Ledger linking those stages; to require the standardised, structured and machine-readable reporting of public expenditure by public bodies, including in respect of public procurement, grant disbursements and transfers between public bodies; to provide for a unique supplier identifier and for a basis to be recorded for every payment, including recurring and non-order payments; to provide for the linking of payments to the authority under which they arise; to provide for aggregated reporting of public funding received by non-public bodies; to provide for disclosure obligations in respect of special purpose vehicles; to provide for the interoperability of the Ledger with the public procurement data infrastructure of the European Union; to provide for oversight, audit, assurance and sanctions; to make consequential amendments to the Freedom of Information Act 2014 and the Comptroller and Auditor General (Amendment) Act 1993; and to provide for related matters.</p>
          <p eId="para_676"> The first duty of Government is to serve its people. That carries a responsibility to manage public money with care, with competence and with accountability. We cannot meet that responsibility if we cannot reliably account for how that money is spent. This is what this Bill seeks to make possible. Over the past two years, I have spent considerable time examining public procurement and how the State records and reports its expenditure. What surprised me most was how many basic questions we still cannot reliably answer. How much does the State spend on procurement each year? How much does it spend with individual suppliers? When a contract is awarded how much is ultimately paid under that contract, and was what we paid for actually delivered? These are questions that any organisation should be able to answer. We have procurement systems, we have financial management systems and we have contract award notices and purchase order reports. We have the pieces but we cannot reliably put them together.</p>
          <p eId="para_677"> This Bill would establish a public spending ledger, creating a golden thread from the original tender, contract award, purchase orders and invoices, right through to the final payment. It would require public bodies to report regularly, linking payments to the contracts, grants or other authorities under which they were made, and recording changes to contracts. If a public body was to receive or to award a contract for €10 million, we should be able to see who received it, what was agreed, whether the contract changed, and how much was ultimately paid.</p>
          <p eId="para_678"> The Bill does not require public bodies to replace their existing financial systems. It requires them to report information in a consistent way so that it can be connected and understood. This would help us identify where payments exceed agreed contract values, compare what public bodies pay for similar goods and services, and ask whether what we paid for was actually delivered.</p>
          <p eId="para_679"> I want to acknowledge the people of Galway East who gave me the privilege of representing them in this House. I know how hard they work for their money and I believe it is my responsibility in this House to make sure their money is spent well. This Bill builds on decades of work by people who have sought to make the State more open and accountable, from freedom of information and open data to the work of public servants, campaigners and ordinary citizens. Over the past two years, I have learned that even relatively small changes can take considerable time, effort and persistence. I have seen public bodies respond constructively and make real improvements. I have also learned that change is possible. The progress we make today builds on the work of those who came before us. We have a responsibility, not just to maintain the institutions we inherit but to improve them for the generations that follow.</p>
          <p eId="para_680"> Seán Lemass and T.K. Whitaker understood that Ireland could not build a modern economy by continuing to do things as they had always been done. They helped to change how the State thought, planned and acted. Our generation should bring that same ambition to modernising the State itself, how it manages public money, how it learns from its experiences and, above all, how it serves its people.</p>
          <p eId="para_681">This Bill will not on its own solve the challenges facing public spending. Better information does not automatically produce better decisions but without good information, we condemn ourselves to repeat mistakes we should have learned from. The State needs to buy better, manage its contracts better and, above all, deliver better for the people it exists to serve. I commend the Bill to the House.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_244">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_682">Is the Bill opposed?</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryButler" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_the_Taoiseach" eId="spk_245">
          <from>Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Mary Butler)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_683">No.</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_10"> Question put and agreed to.</summary>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_246">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_684">Since this is a Private Members' Bill, Second Stage must, under Standing Orders, be taken in Private Members' time.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#AlbertDolan" eId="spk_247">
          <from>Deputy Albert Dolan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_685">I move: "That the Bill be taken in Private Members' time."</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_11"> Question put and agreed to.</summary>
      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_16">
        <heading>Local Government (Room Charges) Bill 2026: First Stage<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:25:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <speech by="#GeraldNash" eId="spk_248">
          <from>Deputy Ged Nash<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:25:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_686">I move:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_687">That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to enable local authorities to make charges in respect of the occupation of rooms in hotels and guesthouses, and of certain other premises used for holiday or guest accommodation, and to provide for related matters.</p>
          <p eId="para_688"> This is a straightforward Bill. Its intention is to provide local authorities with a clear legislative framework within which they can be enabled to introduce an accommodation levy. While tourism growth benefits local economies, the associated infrastructure costs, maintenance of public spaces, waste management, transport, cultural and recreational facilities fall on local authorities without a dedicated revenue stream linked to the volume of visitors. The Bill addresses this gap by providing a legal basis for a locally determined accommodation charge, commonly referred to as a tourist tax or bed tax, a standard feature of the fiscal architecture in most European countries. France, Germany, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium and Austria all operate accommodation levies of one kind or another, typically at municipal or regional level and typically ranging from €1 to €5 per person per night, depending on the category of accommodation. In the UK, Manchester introduced a city visitor charge in 2023.</p>
          <p eId="para_689"> In Ireland, the matter has been the subject of recurring policy discussion. The Tourism Action Plan 2023-2025 identified an accommodation levy as a potential revenue instrument for local authorities. Proposals were considered by the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport and Media. The Bill does not require any local authority to adopt the scheme, nor does it specify the rate of the charge. Instead, the scheme enables each local authority to decide whether to set a rate in the first place, or different rates for different categories of accommodation, appropriate to its own circumstances.</p>
          <p eId="para_690"> The charge as envisaged in the Bill is imposed on the room provider rather than directly on the occupant. It is recoverable by the local authority as a simple contract debt. The amount of the charge, the area to which it applies and the return on payment dates are all matters for determination by the local authority under its adopted scheme. The Bill also provides for the Revenue Commissioners to share relevant VAT registration and returns information with local authorities to assist them in identifying room providers operating within their areas and in verifying the accuracy of charges paid. The charge as designed would be applied to hotels, guesthouses and self-catering accommodation let on a short-term basis. It does not apply to caravan parks or camping sites.</p>
          <p eId="para_691"> I note that similar legislative proposals have been published, for example, by Deputy McAuliffe, who is in the Chamber this afternoon. However, there appears to be no common Government position on the principle of an accommodation levy. We in Labour see the legislation proposed today through the lens of our commitment to broadening the revenue base. We also see the principle of a room charge as a potential, fair and sustainable revenue-raising measure that would allow cash-starved local authorities to generate more of their own income to improve services and the environment for local residents. We have one of the most centralised forms of decision-making in Europe, and a local authority system that is better described as local administration than as local government. We should trust good local elected representatives who are prepared to be held accountable on the generation and spending of locally sourced revenue.</p>
          <p eId="para_692"> As the derelict sites levy transitions to a tax collected by Revenue, something for which I have been advocating for years, this income stream will be lost by local authorities, as envisaged by the finance Bill. A way needs to be found to ring-fence the tax collected and to ensure its full value is returned to the local authority area within which the subject properties lie.</p>
          <p eId="para_693"> The Bill before us today would also allow a local authority to define an area within its administrative area in terms of where it chooses to deploy such a levy or charge.</p>
          <p eId="para_694">In other words, a local authority can identify some areas within its own administrative area to target or deploy the charges envisaged in this legislation. For the avoidance of doubt, this legislation does not force any local authority to introduce room charges. Such a move would be, as envisaged under this Bill, at the local authority's democratic discretion entirely.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_249">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_695">I thank the Deputy. Is the Bill being opposed? </p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#MaryButler" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_the_Taoiseach" eId="spk_250">
          <from>Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Mary Butler)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_696">It is not opposed.</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_12"> Question put and agreed to.</summary>
        <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_251">
          <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_697">Since this is a Private Members' Bill, Second Stage must, under Standing Orders, be taken in Private Members' time.</p>
        </speech>
        <speech by="#GeraldNash" eId="spk_252">
          <from>Deputy Ged Nash<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_698">I move: "That the Bill be taken in Private Members' time."</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_13"> Question put and agreed to.</summary>
      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="debate" eId="dbsect_17">
        <heading>Sixteenth Report of the Standing Committee of Selection and Appointment of Committee Cathaoirligh: Motion<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <speech by="#MaryButler" as="#Minister_of_State_at_the_Department_of_the_Taoiseach" eId="spk_253">
          <from>Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Mary Butler)<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
          <p eId="para_699">I move:</p>
          <p class="indent_1" eId="para_700">That Dáil Éireann, pursuant to Standing Order 33, and with effect from 11th November, 2026—</p>
          <p class="indent_2" eId="para_701">(<i>a</i>) approves the Sixteenth Report of the Standing Committee of Selection in accordance with Standing Order 33, copies of which were laid before Dáil Éireann on 6th November, 2026, and appoints members to a Committee accordingly; and</p>
          <p class="indent_2" eId="para_702">(<i>b</i>) appoints Deputy Ruth Coppinger to be Cathaoirleach of the Committee on Preventing and Responding to Domestic, Sexual and Gender-Based Violence.</p>
        </speech>
        <summary eId="sum_14"> Question put and agreed to.</summary>
      </debateSection>
      <debateSection name="questions" eId="dbsect_18">
        <heading>Ceisteanna - Questions<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></heading>
        <debateSection name="question" eId="dbsect_19">
          <heading>Cabinet Committees<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></heading>
          <question by="#BarryHeneghan" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_1">
            <p eId="para_703">1. <b>Deputy Barry Heneghan</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [78908/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#PeterChapCleere" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_2">
            <p eId="para_704">2. <b>Deputy Peter 'Chap' Cleere</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [75628/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#TonyMcCormack" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_3">
            <p eId="para_705">3. <b>Deputy Tony McCormack</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [64303/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#AindriasMoynihan" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_4">
            <p eId="para_706">4. <b>Deputy Aindrias Moynihan</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [75860/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#RichardBoydBarrett" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_5">
            <p eId="para_707">5. <b>Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [70052/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#BrendanSmith" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_6">
            <p eId="para_708">6. <b>Deputy Brendan Smith</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [75862/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#PaulLawless" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_7">
            <p eId="para_709">7. <b>Deputy Paul Lawless</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [77535/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#RoseConwayWalsh" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_8">
            <p eId="para_710">8. <b>Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [77484/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#LiamQuaide" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_9">
            <p eId="para_711">9. <b>Deputy Liam Quaide</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will next meet. [75669/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#MichaelCollins2016" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_10">
            <p eId="para_712">10. <b>Deputy Michael Collins</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [79369/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#DannyHealyRae" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_11">
            <p eId="para_713">11. <b>Deputy Danny Healy-Rae</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will next meet. [79384/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#ConorDMcGuinness" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_12">
            <p eId="para_714">12. <b>Deputy Conor D. McGuinness</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [79355/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#RuairiOmurchu" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_13">
            <p eId="para_715">13. <b>Deputy Ruairí Ó Murchú</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [79318/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#RodericOGorman" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_14">
            <p eId="para_716">14. <b>Deputy Roderic O'Gorman</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will next meet. [79395/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#JenniferWhitmore" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_15">
            <p eId="para_717">15. <b>Deputy Jennifer Whitmore</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [79223/26]</p>
          </question>
          <question by="#IvanaBacik" to="#Taoiseach" eId="pq_16">
            <p eId="para_718">16. <b>Deputy Ivana Bacik</b> asked the <b>Taoiseach</b> when the Cabinet committee on water quality will meet next. [79428/26]</p>
          </question>
          <speech by="#MichaelMartin" eId="spk_254">
            <from> The Taoiseach<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_719">I propose to take questions Nos. 1 to 16, inclusive, together.</p>
            <p eId="para_720"> The Cabinet committee on water quality oversees implementation of programme for Government commitments in relation to Ireland's water, including those related to pressures from agriculture, forestry, land use and wastewater treatment. Water is vital to the well-being of our society, economy and environment and the programme for Government commits to improving the health of our rivers, lakes and estuaries and of our coastal and groundwaters.</p>
            <p eId="para_721"> The Environmental Protection Agency, EPA's, indicator report on water quality in 2025 noted some improvements at a local level, with 54% of rivers and lakes recorded as having good or better biological equality. Some 98% of bathing waters met or exceeded minimum standards. We continue to have concerns regarding nutrient loads in certain parts of the country. While EPA analysis shows that significant challenges remain, it is important to recognise the progress that has been made. An example of positive improvement is the Ballyteigue-Bannow catchment in County Wexford, seeing the biological quality of a number of its rivers improve.</p>
            <p eId="para_722"> Budget 2027 allocates almost €2.3 billion to Uisce Éireann in 2027. This includes €1.5 billion in capital funding to build essential capacity and increase the resilience and sustainability of our water supply for new water and wastewater connections, enabling the delivery of new homes, and to deliver upgrades to wastewater treatment infrastructure, improving water quality, protecting the environment and enhancing compliance with regulatory standards. This investment will progress over 400 projects across the country next year, including the eastern and midlands region water supply project, the greater Dublin drainage scheme and the wastewater treatment plant upgrades in Limerick and Waterford.</p>
            <p eId="para_723"> The water action plan, published last year, sets out over 150 actions to protect, improve and restore water quality. These include the implementation and tracking of the water action plans, the development of a stronger sixth nitrates action programme, the farming for water European innovation partnership, EIP, project and the national barrier mitigation programme, which will support fish migration and water quality.</p>
            <p eId="para_724"> The sixth nitrates action programme was published by the Minister, Deputy Browne, in December and will run until 2028. This plan gives effect to the nitrates directive, which governs the management of nitrate loss from agriculture to water bodies. On foot of the measures included in this plan, the European Commission granted Ireland a three-year extension on its nitrates derogation in December 2025. The Minister, Deputy Heydon, is working with his officials to address key conditions within the derogation decision, including the undertaking of the environmental assessments to demonstrate enhanced compliance with the nitrates derogation, the habitats directive and the water framework directive.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#VeronaMurphy" eId="spk_255">
            <from> An Ceann Comhairle<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_725">There are 15 Members drawn to speak. I am proposing 45 seconds each. I will keep Members in check. That is to allow a decent answer.</p>
            <p eId="para_726"> I call Deputy Heneghan.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#BarryHeneghan" eId="spk_256">
            <from>Deputy Barry Heneghan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:30:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_727">Last December, I raised the issue of flood defence being included in the Critical Infrastructure Act. I am seeking an update on that. My constituency and my constituents have waited far too long.</p>
            <p eId="para_728"> With regard to water quality, I raised the issue of using nature-based solutions with the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine last week. I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Moran's work with the 3D-printed bollards for flood defence, but flood defence and water quality should be going hand in hand. I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Christopher O'Sullivan, who brought me to Dún Laoghaire's oyster farms, which show that oysters can clean water at 190 litres per day.</p>
            <p eId="para_729">We should be using 3D-printed flood defences that protect the oysters that clean our water. We should be breaking the waves but not breaking the ecosystem. I ask the Taoiseach for an update on that.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#PeterChapCleere" eId="spk_257">
            <from>Deputy Peter 'Chap' Cleere<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_730">The Nore, Suir and Barrow, known as the Three Sisters, traverse the heart of Carlow and Kilkenny. Last year, the EPA found that two of the most nitrogen-polluted waterways in the whole country were right where the Barrow and the Nore met. Last week, the EPA reported that more than half of our wastewater plants were failing the standards set to stop pollution. Meanwhile, in Bennettsbridge on the banks of the River Nore, the wastewater plant upgrade was approved years ago but it will not be finished until 2030. It is not good enough and it is not acceptable that in Mullinavat and Inistioge the plants are at full capacity. Graiguenamanagh, sitting on the River Barrow, is in dire need of an upgrade too. These villages need to be looked after. They need the money locked in and they need a date. We know that Uisce Éireann is drawing up its first national wastewater plan out to 2055. When the committee meets next, will it make sure that the plan prioritises the small towns, villages and rivers that the EPA says are under pressure, with funding and clear timelines provided?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#TonyMcCormack" eId="spk_258">
            <from>Deputy Tony McCormack<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_731">I want to acknowledge the significant investment that this Government is making in water infrastructure, and rightly so, but we have an opportunity now to strengthen accountability and communication from the public bodies responsible for delivering these essential services. To take the example of Birr in my own constituency, residents and businesses have endured repeated water outages, causing considerable problems. I have raised this at our infrastructure committee. What concerns me is the quality of information that we are receiving from Uisce Éireann. It is not just individual TDs who are receiving generic replies that fail to address the questions asked. Even formal requests for further information from Oireachtas committees can be met with vague responses that provide little additional detail. Could we look at introducing a formal system requiring public bodies to respond directly to each question raised by an Oireachtas committee within clear timelines and to provide further clarification where answers are inadequate?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#AindriasMoynihan" eId="spk_259">
            <from>Deputy Aindrias Moynihan<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_732">We are approaching winter with the possibility of more rain, cattle inside and around the yard, and silage pits opened. Farmers are very much alive to the risks to water quality. They will be out around their yards making sure that every action is taken to ensure a safe water quality. They have even been building extra slurry capacity. They are playing their part and they expect that others, including the likes of Uisce Éireann, would also step up to the plate and play their part. It is very frustrating to see wastewater from the Ballingeary treatment plant being discharged into the River Lee by Uisce Éireann.</p>
            <p eId="para_733"> The nitrates derogation is hugely important for farmers. Last week, the Minister expressed concern that some farms may not be able to retain the derogation even though Ireland as a whole may. The subcatchment results are due out next year. Can we make sure that Uisce Éireann pulls its weight and delivers capacity?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#BrendanSmith" eId="spk_260">
            <from>Deputy Brendan Smith<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_734">As the Taoiseach knows, the small towns and villages growth programme provides for investment in water and wastewater infrastructure in the smaller towns and villages that are not included in Uisce Éireann's main capital plan. Such investment would enable housing developments in those small towns and villages, where we already have good social infrastructure, including schools, community centres, sporting facilities, shops and health facilities. There is a constant problem now with traffic in our larger towns, so the dispersal of the population in the future would be very beneficial. We would be adding relatively small numbers to towns and villages that already have infrastructure in place, bar water and sewerage systems of a certain standard.</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#PaulLawless" eId="spk_261">
            <from>Deputy Paul Lawless<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_735">There are major issues with Uisce Éireann right across the country. In Mayo, for example, in the Johnstown Lavellyroe group water scheme, which was taken over recently by Uisce Éireann, there have been major problems. Over the past five months, there have been 22 days of outages. This is happening at a time when Uisce Éireann has paid €18 million in performance-related bonuses to its staff and its CEO has received a pay increase of €118,000, bringing his salary to almost €400,000. How is this justifiable?</p>
          </speech>
          <speech by="#RoseConwayWalsh" eId="spk_262">
            <from>Deputy Rose Conway-Walsh<recordedTime time="2026-11-10T15:35:00+00:00"/></from>
            <p eId="para_736">Recent alarming reports from the United States confirm that hackers have targeted water infrastructure across 12 states, highlighting the growing threat to critical national infrastructure. I raised this with the Taoiseach in December 2023 and again in February 2024 when a local group water scheme in Mayo was hacked.</p>
          </speech>
        </debateSection>
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  </debate>
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